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For instructions on how to nominate an article, see Template:DYK nomination header § Instructions for nominators.
"Template:Did you know nominations" redirects here. For the list of approved nominations, see Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
September 18 1
September 19 1 1
September 20 1
September 22 1 1
September 23 1
September 24 1
September 26 2
September 27 2 1
September 28 2 1
October 2 1
October 3 1
October 4 1
October 5 3
October 6 1
October 7 4 2
October 8 2 1
October 9 5 2
October 10 3
October 11 3
October 12 2 1
October 13 9 2
October 14 1 1
October 15 6 1
October 16 6 3
October 17 4 2
October 18 7 1
October 19 9 6
October 20 5 3
October 21 1 1
October 22 12 3
October 23 9 4
October 24 5 2
October 25 8 6
October 26 6 2
October 27 7 4
October 28 9 4
October 29 7 6
October 30 10 5
October 31 10 3
November 1 12 7
November 2 9 5
November 3 18 10
November 4 7 3
November 5 13 5
November 6 6 2
November 7 9 4
November 8 7 1
November 9 9 3
November 10 12 2
November 11 5 2
November 12 4 1
November 13
November 14 2 2
November 15
November 16
Total 282 116
Last updated 22:17, 16 November 2024 UTC
Current time is 22:21, 16 November 2024 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators

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If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.

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Frequently asked questions

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How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below). Because of WP:DYKTIMEOUT, a nomination should be reviewed within two months since the reviewer/promoter may agree to reject and close an unpromoted hook after that time has passed.

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.


Instructions for reviewers

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Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.
  • After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Advanced procedures

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How to promote an accepted hook

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At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
  2. Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
    • Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting.
  3. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
  4. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
  8. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :)

  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
    • Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
  2. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
    • Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
    • Check that there's a bold link to the article.
  3. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
  4. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
  5. Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
    • At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
  6. Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

  • To [[T:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
  • To [[T:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook

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  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

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  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

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  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

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Older nominations

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Articles created/expanded on September 18

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The United States of America (album)

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  • ALT1: ... that the title of the 1968 album The United States of America was intended to be a political statement akin to "hanging the flag upside down"?
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Had to find an alternate source that I could easily link to as the article uses a book source
Improved to Good Article status by Iostn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Iostn (talk) 21:45, 23 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

It would be brilliant. But add the italics and the quotation marks and it should work reasonably well on any day. Surtsicna (talk) 20:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article was promoted to GA status 5 days before the DYK nomination. It is, unsurprisingly, also long enough and it meets the sourcing, neutrality, and copyright requirements. The hooks proposed by Iostn are fine, but there is a clear potential for something much grander. See Launchballer's suggestion. We rarely get such gems in the rough, Iostn, but let me know if you cannot bother and I will approve your original hook. Surtsicna (talk) 20:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, Surtsicna, I think I'm going to hang on with this nom and wait for the April Fools' proposal, if possible Iostn (talk) 15:51, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Iostn: While quirky, I do not think this hook fits the spirit of the type of hooks used in the April Fools DYK set. Z1720 (talk) 23:06, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It could in theory work as a regular quirky hook rather than an AFD hook, although the decision about that could be left to a promoter. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:54, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's a few other quotes that could be used instead, such as 'met a "mixed reception"' or something from 'wasn't half bad. Some of it was embarrassing but some of it really stood up over time'.--Launchballer 10:00, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
What is the status of this nomination?--Launchballer 17:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 20

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Genocide in the Hebrew Bible

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Created by Buidhe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 252 past nominations.

(t · c) buidhe 05:50, 20 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I don't see the hook in the article. It is OR to interpret labelling one's enemy "Amalek" as applying biblical command to "spare no one". I haven't checked the sources, but the article does not support the hook. Srnec (talk) 17:14, 21 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Well, the original hook I was thinking of is ALT1 below but I wasn't sure if it would be accepted either.
  • ALT1: ... that genocide in the Hebrew Bible has been cited as an inspiration by the Crusaders, Rwandan Hutu, and Israeli leaders? (t · c) buidhe 02:55, 22 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'll take a stab at this. I trust Buidhe to be the subject expert and do good research, but I concur that the section on "Justification for violence" here is a bit underdeveloped for the hooks proposed. I can't find the text of the article clearly confirming ALT0. As for ALT1, I'd ask "justification for what"? Carrying genocide? But that is not clear from the short quote about Pope Urban in the 11th century and then... Martin Luther? Did Luther called or tried to justify some genocide? I'd ask for that section to be expanded, clearly stating who said what, and in particular, who might have tried to justify genocide. The second paragraph in that section is more clear, and perhaps an ALT2 about "Genocide in the Hebrew Bible being used by Israeli leaders to justify their actions in the Israel-Hamas war" might be fine, and would probably draw more views too. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:06, 24 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Alt1 isn't about justification, rather inspiration. Leaving aside Luther's arguably genocidal stated beliefs about Jewish people, something along the lines of your hook may be better. (t · c) buidhe 03:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT2 ... that Israeli leaders have described their enemies in the current Gaza war as targets of divinely commanded genocide?

(t · c) buidhe 03:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm just not sure what hook wording would be deemed acceptable. Any ideas? (t · c) buidhe 18:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am withdrawing from reviewing this and any future DYKs by Buidhe due to COI at Template:Did you know nominations/Soviet atrocities committed against prisoners of war during World War II (criticizing one another's DYKs could lead to behavioral problems which I do not want). I'd politely ask Buidhe to do the same and leave reviewing my DYKs to others. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 23

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Ngiam Tong Dow

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  • Source: "In 1968, we went to the World Bank meeting. The South Africans were there and we invited the South African Finance Minister to our hotel room."

"Dr Goh wanted to buy gold at a fixed price, rather than a floating market price. So we agreed to buy 100 tons, a substantial amount, at $40 US dollars." "Then he took out his US one dollar note. And sliced it into halves! Just like that. He gave half to me and said, "You keep this. I will keep the other half and my man will meet you in Switzerland."" "I handed the sliced US dollar note over. He took out the other half. It matched! The serial numbers were the same."

Ngiam, Tong Dow. A Mandarin and the Making of Public Policy: Reflections by Ngiam Tong Dow. ISBN: 978-9971-69-350-3
    • Reviewed:
Created by BenTanXiaoMing (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

BenTanXiaoMing (talk) 09:47, 25 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: None required.

Overall: v/r - TP 15:02, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BenTanXiaoMing: @TParis: This hook violates WP:EGG, and the claim that it is/was the "largest" purchase is never mentioned in the article, just that it was the first. A new hook is needed. Kimikel (talk) 03:09, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kimikel: "Largest" was in there at the time of the review. It was removed in this edit by @Justanothersgwikieditor:. I've added it in with a new ref. And the hook is fine. No one expects to find an article titled "purchase of gold from South Africa". But here is an alt anyway.--v/r - TP 13:59, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
ALT1 is good to go. Nobody would reasonably infer that a link saying "purchase of gold from South Africa was completed" would lead to a page about a Singaporean civil servant, so ALT0 is not fine, per WP:EGG. Kimikel (talk) 23:01, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You're just going to skim over the fact that you accused me of lazily not verifying the original hook without checking the article's history?--v/r - TP 01:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I did not "accuse" of you of anything. I simply noted that the article and the hook did not match, which is a requirement for DYK. Get over yourself. Kimikel (talk) 02:41, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Because it had been changed after the review. Geeze, some people--v/r - TP 02:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@BenTanXiaoMing and TParis: I wouldn't call an autobiography a reliable source for a claim like this, unless it was clear someone independently fact-checked and verified it. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 04:29, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Theleekycauldron: Thanks for highlighting the issue! I managed to find a few more sources to support the claim. Added it to the article. BenTanXiaoMing (talk) 07:45, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on September 24

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Expandable card game

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Created by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 519 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:43, 24 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • I think there is an issue with the article, which is that going by the most of the sources in the article and the hook source, the WP:COMMONTERM appears to be "living card game", and therefore that should be the title of the article and the boldlink. For related reasons I think ALT1 is actually the more interesting hook, though it would benefit from rephrasing to make it punchier. I'm keen to hear other opinions. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 23:59, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Cloventt and Z1720: This has been discussed a bit by card game editors, I also pinged them at Talk:Expandable_card_game#Not_much_on_this. It is not clear what is common term, and while LCG is a common term, as explained in the article, it is trademarked by one company, and could be considered not neutral - prioritizing that one company over others. I'd be happy to see this discussed on talk, but nobody seems to care, and I don't feel like deciding by myself to use a term specific to one company over what appears to be a perfectly fine and more neutral (not trademarked) term. As for the "punchier" wording, feel free to suggest an ALT1a and I can "adopt" it if it seems ok to me, so you could accept it... otherwise I am sorry, I don't know what your idea of "punchier" is. PS. Please WP:ECHO me when replying, if my response is needed. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 15:01, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on September 26

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Culinary Class Wars

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Senior judge Paik Jong-won is a celebrity chef in Korea.
Senior judge Paik Jong-won is a celebrity chef in Korea.
  • ALT1 ... that the judges of the Culinary Class Wars suffered from over-eating but judge Paik Jong-won (pictured) still ate his packed lunch too?
  • ALT2 ... that the dishes in the Culinary Class Wars were discarded after judging to prevent others from tasting them and disagreeing with the judges? (pictured)
    • Created by Andrew Davidson (talk) and Windershaker (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 131 past nominations.

    Andrew🐉(talk) 20:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • At the time of nomination the article was exactly 7 days old (which fits I guess), and the length seems to fit standard. There are some good English sources and a lot of Korean coverage, so I don't doubt that this is notable. Earwig says no copyvios, but the article is a bit messy. (Why does the "endless cooking hell" section have nothing in it, for one?) Most importantly, the hook is also little bit vague, and I don't think it would capture much attention. Good day, Wuju Daisuki (Talk? 뭐 그까이꺼 대충!) 17:11, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    * @Z1720: The article looks in better shape now, but the alt you provided is not well written, nor would it be very interesting if it was. Good day, Wuju Daisuki (Talk? 뭐 그까이꺼 대충!) 02:22, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Z1720: Thanks to Z1720 for taking an interest. I'm not understanding Wuju Daisuki's objections to the ALT1 hook, which seems fine to me. Maybe we just have different tastes. To help avoid an impasse and establish a consensus, please could Z1720 say what they think of the hooks? Andrew🐉(talk) 10:38, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Andrew Davidson: My opinion is that I am confused by ALT1 because I do not know who Paik Jong-won is. After looking at the image caption and clicking on Jong-won's link I was able to piece together that he is a judge, but it takes too long for me to understand the hook. I like ALT0 more because it is succinct and understandable. If the image is going to be used, it needs to be included in the article. Z1720 (talk) 11:36, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Straight away you'll need a better source for ALT2 per WP:FORBESCON. I'll assess the rest of this when I'm less sleepy.--Launchballer 22:03, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Okay, so ALT2 is currently unusable per above, but ALT1 is unencyclopedic and has been cut from the article and ALT0 would require an end-of-sentence citation. Also, as written this would deserve {{overly detailed}} and much of this needs to go.--Launchballer 12:01, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hanif Kureshi

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    Converted from a redirect by Ktin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 106 past nominations.

    Ktin (talk) 01:27, 28 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Extremely no-fun comment: If this goes on the main page, the copyright status of the images in it should be clear. I'm looking at c:Commons:Copyright_rules_by_territory/India, and it says that there is not freedom of panorama "For copyrighted 2D (paintings, drawings, maps, pictures, engravings, etc.)". It seems that only sculptures, and art that is not "Paintings, drawings, or photographs", has FOP. So.. did Hanif Kureshi dedicate his art to the public domain? Is his estate (if any) willing to, if he didn't? I'm not demanding the images be removed or anything, just that if we can't be sure, it may be better to withdraw the nom and keep the possibly questionable images than proceed with the nom if the image copyright status can't be ascertained. (Of course, if the copyright status can be ascertained to be good, then great.) SnowFire (talk) 03:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I believe we should be good on Indian freedom of panorama due to the 'permanently situate' clause. Specifically, this would be included in the freedom of panorama clause in India because the work is "permanently situated in a public place or premises to which the public has access". Will wait for the DYK review. Ktin (talk) 03:23, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • If I may ask, which country's street murals did you upload? If it was Indian street murals and the murals were in a public place, they should not have been deleted. Specifically as quoted above, if the work of art is permanently situated in a public place or premises to which the public has access, that should be allowed under freedom of panorama, in India. Ktin (talk) 00:44, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Street art in India is permitted under Freedom of Panorama if they were in a public place, specifically under clause Section 52(t) which says (the following acts shall not constitute an infringement of copyright) ... if such work is permanently situate in a public place or any premises to which the public has access. So if you had uploaded pictures of murals in India, they should not have been deleted. Ktin (talk) 03:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I will take your word for it; but others might not. I've never seen a lead image in the PNG format before, especially one that represents a screen capture from a video. Viriditas (talk) 08:50, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm doing a read through and random spot checks. I don't like how you use multiple sources after a sentence; when I look at the source, I see that only one of the two (for example) supports the material in whole or in part, rather than both. I'm guessing this is due to older versions and too many cooks in the kitchen. Best practice is to have one citation at the end of a sentence or phrase or a word. I find it helpful to bundle sources if you need to use more than two, such that one appears inline only. Example: there's no reason to have two citations after "Kureshi was born on 12 October 1982 in Palitana, a town in the Bhavnagar district of Gujarat", when the entire statement is supported by just one.[1] Viriditas (talk) 09:18, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    And now I see that neither of the cited sources supports his birth date of 12 October. Please go through this article and make sure each citation is used judiciously and supports the material. Viriditas (talk) 09:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    This source supports the birth date, but is not currently in the article. Also, because it was published on October 30, we don't know if there's a problem with citogenesis. Looking at the page history, the only source for his birth date is yourself. Perhaps you can fix this issue? Viriditas (talk) 06:41, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ok, the birth date comes from the social media account for the St+art India Foundation which announced his death on September 23.[2] It doesn't look like anyone else used it until much later, either copying it from Facebook and Instagram or from this article. I'm not clear how we go ahead and cite that other than IAR. Viriditas (talk) 06:48, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Okay, I think I figured out a workaround. Vogue India posted a piece just before or after you created the Wikipedia bio. They directly cited a portion of the original Instagram post (an image), which preserves the chain of evidence in a reliable secondary source without citogenesis. I will go ahead and add this now. Viriditas (talk) 06:56, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm slowly making way through every sentence, and virtually every paragraph has the wrong source or a missing source. I am attempting to fix this, but this article was not ready for DYK when it was nominated. Viriditas (talk) 09:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Almost done, but I have to go to sleep now and won't be able to finish until tomorrow. If anyone reads this, the lead doesn't mention the Handpainted Type Project and it really needs to do so. I would be embarrassed to run this if it didn't. Viriditas (talk) 11:40, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ktin: your hook has to be based on information in the article. Currently, you don't mention anything about Daku inline. You will need to add that. In addition to adding it to the body, I would also add it to the lead along with the Handpainted Type Project. Viriditas (talk) 11:50, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Viriditas: I don’t have access to a computer that I can edit from. But I had a brief look and an IP editor and another one-edit editor has edited the article after I nominated the DYK to remove content from both the body and the lede. Please have a look. Alternately, I will when I get access again. Ktin (talk) 23:52, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ktin: Thanks for letting me know. I will take care of the issues, but by doing so, I won't be allowed to review the nomination. Please confirm that all of these images of murals were completed in whole or in part by Hanif Kureshi. I have added commons categories to all of them in good faith, but there is no identifying information in the image uploads indicating Kureshi is the author. Viriditas (talk) 23:54, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I will attempt to add sources to the images later tonight. Viriditas (talk) 03:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ping me when you're done and I will review this.--Launchballer 15:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you, I will. The article is very problematic, and I'm having to go through every sentence, line by line, source by source. There's also an enormous amount that isn't here, so there's a potential WP:DYKCOMPLETE problem that I'm also trying to solve. Viriditas (talk) 21:24, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Ktin: I'm trying to finish this up, but I noticed that professor Sanchita Khurana has included a lot of great images of Kureshi's public art online with a photo credit to the St+art India Foundation. Does that mean I can upload the images to commons, or not? Given that Kureshi co-founded this project with the idea of getting art to the people, it would make sense if the images were released to the public, as that philosophy would be aligned with the original intent of the foundation. It would also vastly improve this article. Otherwise, we currently only have one image of Kureshi's work, and because the angle is rather extreme and the lighting is harsh, it's not a good one, and I would like to remedy that by replacing it with a non-free one if need be. Viriditas (talk) 21:25, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Viriditas: I still do not have access to a computer that I can edit from. However, these images — are they images of buildings / streets that have the murals on them or are they pictures of the murals isolated? If the former they would be allowed under freedom of panorama in India, but, if they are the latter, they are copyrighted. We can always reach out to St+art India on instagram and ask them if they are willing to upload a picture or two onto commons and release them under cc3 or similar. I have seen folks do that in the past. Unfortunately we can’t use non free image under the *fair use* principle because it will be argued that it is possible to walk up and get a picture of the building / street art. Furthermore, iirc fair use would require that the picture be used as the identifying graphic for the article. I hope to get access to a computer to edit from over the weekend and I can lend a hand. Ktin (talk) 04:15, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Viriditas: I am back with availability over the weekend. Feel free to let me know if you need anything from me. Thanks. Ktin (talk) 08:35, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ktin: Thank you. I am trying to wind things down and wrap this up. I'm hoping to be finished in 14-16 hours from now, if I can get it together. Viriditas (talk) 09:32, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ktin: I think I figured out why I was having so many problems. The merge of Daku (artist) was never completed. I only just saw this. This is why I made the comment about DYKCOMPLETE up above. What I'm seeing in the sources and what I'm seeing in this article didn't line up until I looked at the original Daku article, which shows me all the missing content. Viriditas (talk) 11:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ktin: It would be very helpful if you could upload some more free images. I understand if you can't, but the only image we have of Kureshi's work is sadly captured from the wrong angle. That particular work (We Love Dilli) is supposed to be captured from the front to show the script floating. With the current image taken from the side, you can't actually see that effect, and it pretty much detracts from the entire point. I understand that the photographer probably wasn't aware of this, but photographing art is very tricky, and there are, in fact, pieces which defy the act of photography itself. If that means requesting images from the various art collectives Kureshi worked with, that would be great. Viriditas (talk) 10:05, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Viriditas: I have asked on the Instagram page of St+art India. Will keep you posted. Ktin (talk) 19:15, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Viriditas: Btw, the graffiti that image that you have added from Goregaon. I had seen that before. While it does read "Daku", I had no way to verify that it was indeed Kureshi's creation. Hence, I had not added it to the article. From a stylization standpoint, it does not line up with any of his other creations. I might be wrong. But, what we have there is unverified. Ktin (talk) 19:24, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm not so sure. The WSJ said he spent a year tagging buildings in Mumbai, and that he "shies away from being associated with just one face or identity. He doesn't want to be known for only one kind of art." I'll consider removing it if I can't find anything else to support it. I should also note that the Gujarati language Wikipedia pretty much confirms this: "Over the years he wrote his name in different colors and patterns in cities like Mumbai..." Viriditas (talk) 21:54, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Launchballer: I've made some significant progress, and I'm at an inflection point. I don't want this to time out, so I'm wondering if I can have another day or two to work on it. Viriditas (talk) 22:33, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Of course, take your time.--Launchballer 22:39, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you. I just want to note that the hook has to be rewritten as it completely underplays the point of why Kureshi was using Google Street View, which is the most interesting part of the hook. Viriditas (talk) 23:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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    Slop (artificial intelligence)

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    “Shrimp Jesus” is a commonly cited example of AI slop
    “Shrimp Jesus” is a commonly cited example of AI slop
    • ... that slop emerged in 2024 over “pollution”, “garbage” and “dross” as the preferred term to describe low-quality AI-generated material?
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    • Comment: First own DYK nomination. I like this one because a lot of people contributed (images, categorizations). Feels very fresh.
    Created by Jenny8lee (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Jenny8lee (talk) 20:39, 4 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

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    Image eligibility:

    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Welcome to DYK Jenny8lee, I hope you have a wonderful time here, and I hope I can help facilitate your entry the best I can! Created and nominated within a week, long enough, sourced and neutral. QPQ not required because of the nominator being below 5 nominations. I have some questions regarding the hook, since the original article's wording was as such:
    "One increasingly intuitive answer is “garbage.” The neuroscientist Erik Hoel has called it “A.I. pollution,” and the physicist Anthony Aguirre “something like noise” and “A.I.-generated dross.”"
    It seems like these terms were used by one or two people, rather than being in use beyond those individuals quoted within the article. I believe it might be a good idea to re-word the hook(something along the lines of "AI slop has been referred to as "garbage", "pollution", and "dross"), or find something else altogether. The quotes within the lead of the article should be attributed to their sources as well. In addition, I'm not entirely sure whether the AI generated image is free (regarding the copyright of a derivative work, this is a fairly new policy as well). I'm going to ping @Theleekycauldron: to see what they think regarding the matter. Ornithoptera (talk) 02:34, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • ALT1 that thousands of people showed up in Dublin, Ireland for a non-existent Halloween parade due to an article on an AI-produced website in what became a viral example of AI slop in the physical world.

    Source 1: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/dublin-fake-halloween-parade-ireland-ai-advert-b2639505.html Source 2: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/24/opinion/ai-annoying-future.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenny8lee (talk • contribs)

    Per WP:DYKTRIM, I suggest ALT1a: ... that a viral example of slop prompted thousands of people to visit Dublin for a non-existent Halloween parade?--Launchballer 13:50, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Old City of Gaza, Old City of Nablus

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    Church of Saint Porphyrius and the Katib al-Wilaya Mosque
    Church of Saint Porphyrius and the Katib al-Wilaya Mosque
    • Source: Awad, Jihad (2017-01-15). "Conserving the Palestinian Architectural Heritage". International Journal of Heritage Architecture: Studies, Repairs and Maintenance. 1 (3): 454. doi:10.2495/ha-v1-n3-451-460. ISSN 2058-833X. The old city of Nablus has suffered, probably more than any other Palestinian city, from the massive invasion by Israeli forces during the second uprising which started in 2000. Many restoration projects were previously completed by the municipality but unfortunately destroyed by the Israeli bombing of the old city. Many buildings were heavily damaged by Israeli rockets during April 2002. A project was carried out by UNDP and funded by the Japanese government to rebuild the houses. Then in December of 2003, many houses were again damaged during Israeli military activity. This kept recurring: buildings were repaired and then damaged.
      Mraffko, Clothilde; Forey, Samuel (2024-02-14). "Israeli bombs are wiping out Gaza's heritage and history". Le Monde.fr. Retrieved 2024-09-29. Whether the Israelis act intentionally or not, "the result is effectively the erasure of a heritage and a history. Symbolically, this is important because this is one of the ways in which people are attached to their territory," warned Benoît Tadié, former cultural adviser to the French consulate general in Jerusalem between 2009 and 2013. He takes as an example the Old City of Gaza, which, like much of the north of the enclave, is now a vast field of ruins. "It wasn't just a site, it was also the heart of today's city. The hammam and the Pacha's Palace were extremely popular places. The museum also served as a place of education for schoolchildren," explained Tadié.
    Created by Onceinawhile (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 80 past nominations.

    Onceinawhile (talk) 09:57, 29 September 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Thanks Launchballer. All the sources are in the bibliography - let me add in-line citations throughout where they have been missed. I will confirm when done.
    On the Jihad Awad source, I am confident that it is reliable - Professor Awad is full professor of architecture, currently head of architecture department at Ajman University, and this paper (a conference submission) is cited in his official University biography page. He subsequently published an article covering a similar topic here. The statement is not difficult to source elsewhere if needed. Onceinawhile (talk) 20:05, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fine by me. Full review needed.--Launchballer 03:19, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    WIT Press conferences are scams. That source must absolutely be replaced. Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 00:34, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Onceinawhile: Please address the above.--Launchballer 00:18, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Launchballer thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have removed the source referred to above and replaced it with this: Abujidi, Nurhan; Verschure, Han (2006-07-01). "Military Occupation as Urbicide by Construction and Destruction: The Case of Nablus, Palestine". The Arab World Geographer. 9 (2). Allen Press: 206. ISSN 1480-6800. Given the large number of frequent Israeli army invasions of the Old Town, the so called Operation Defensive Shield in April 2002 is considered the heaviest single operation. It caused damage to 47.5% of the housing blocks that structure the Old Town's urban fabric… During other invasions, a shift in the mechanism and location of destruction is evident. Highly focused, limited-scale demolitions targeting specific sections of the city were identified. The size and scale of destruction are not always determined by the type of invasion. For example, the scale of destruction resulting from the overnight incursion of January 2005 was larger than that of the short-term invasion of January 2004, which lasted 10 days. Moreover, a repeated rhythm in invading and destroying the same buildings during the several invasions was registered over the past four years, with each invasion accompanied by destruction, looting, and vandalism.
    Onceinawhile (talk) 23:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's fine. I still see unsourced content in both the articles though.--Launchballer 11:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Henri Claireaux

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    • Source: [3] ("Mais, plus importante fut l'introduction, pour la première fois, d'une représentation directe au Parlement français ... De 1947 à nos jours, Saint-Pierre et Miquelon a eu trois sénateurs : Henri Claireaux (1947-1968)... [But more important was the introduction, for the first time, of direct representation in the French Parliament ... From 1947 to the present day, Saint-Pierre and Miquelon has had three senators: Henri Claireaux (1947-1968)...]."); see also List of senators of Saint Pierre and Miquelon
    Moved to mainspace by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 259 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:50, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Hi BeanieFan11, review follows: article moved to mainspace on 2 October and exceeds minimum length; article is cited inline throughout to what look to be reliable sources; the sources are either in French or paywalled so not much I can check on paraphrasing but Earwig is clear; QPQ has been carried out; I've struck ALT1, although it is supported by the source the overall length of his tenure was just shy of 22 years; on ALT0 the source and article don't say "first French senator from Saint Pierre and Miquelon" but first to represent the place in the Senate. Unlikely I know but it leaves open the possibility that someone from there was elected to the senate as a representative of somewhere else. Perhaps AL2 below works? Happy to consider alternatives. - Dumelow (talk) 17:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • ALT2: ... that Henri Claireaux was the first representative for Saint Pierre and Miquelon elected to the French Senate?
    Thanks, I think it technically needs another reviewer to approve - Dumelow (talk) 05:47, 12 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @BeanieFan11 and Dumelow: I'm sorry, I find ALT2 far too person-does-their-jobby to meet WP:DYKINT. What else have you got?--Launchballer 18:34, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @BeanieFan11, Dumelow, and Launchballer: How about ALT3 ... that Henri Claireaux criticized the devaluation of the French franc in 1958, claiming it devolved Saint Pierre and Miquelon into "a state bordering on poverty"? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 16:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd be fine with that. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:49, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I am not quite sure that it is supported by the source which has:

    Henri Claireaux prend régulièrement la parole en séance publique au début de la Ve République. Il a ainsi, avec Jacques Soustelle, ministre délégué auprès du Premier ministre Michel Debré, un échange assez vif le 17 novembre 1959. Henri Claireaux estime en effet que « le fait d'avoir réduit de 25 millions la subvention au fonds de compensation » en faveur de Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon accule la population de l'archipel à « un état voisin de la misère ». En outre, la dévaluation de décembre 1958 a, selon lui, eu des conséquences désastreuses sur le pouvoir d'achat des Saint-Pierrais.

    My French is a bit rusty but between that and Google Translate I get something like: "Henri Claireaux spoke regularly in the public sessions at the start of the 5th Republic. He had, with Jacques Soustelle, minister delegate to Priem Minister Michel Debré, a quite heated exchange on 17 Noember 1959. Henri Claireaux considered that in "the fact of having reduced by 25 millions the subsidy" for Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon had reduced the population of the archipelago to "a state bordering on poverty". In addition, the devaluation of December 1958 had, he said, had disastrous consequences for the purchasing power of the people of Saint-Pierre." From the sounds of things Claireaux's claim of a "state bordering on poverty" related to the reduction in subsidy and wasn't explicitly linked to the devaluation - Dumelow (talk) 07:28, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe ALT4 ... that in 1959, Henri Claireaux claimed that a reduction to a subsidy to Saint Pierre and Miquelon would devolve the territory into "a state bordering on poverty"? Up to the reviewer if "French senator" should go before his name or not. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @BeanieFan11 and Launchballer: Fine by me but the text of the article needs to reflect this - Dumelow (talk) 07:30, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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    Light Weight Air Warning Radar

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    LW/AW Mark 1A
    • ... that the Australian Light Weight Air Warning Radar was designed to break down into waterproof containers that fit in the Douglas DC-2, were taken ashore from a trawler in canoes, and in one case manpacked up 200 foot cliffs? Source: Minnett and Briton both detail the waterproof aspect and DC-2, Minnett relates it being brought ashore by canoe and quotes the cliffs
    Created by Maury Markowitz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 201 past nominations.

    Maury Markowitz (talk) 13:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: No - ?
    • Interesting: No - ?
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

    QPQ: No - ?
    Overall: Article was created on October 3, and nominated the same day. Length and sourcing are adequate. I am stil reviewing the article for neutrality, and have no yet decided. I found no plagiarism concerns. I note that this Earwig result highlights proper nouns and a properly attributed quote. The original hook was far too long. ALT1 is not hooky as per my above comment. The nominated image is clear at a low resolution, and used in the aticle. Depending on a reworded hook, it may or may not improve the hook. I also note that File:Mark 1A Light Weight Air Warning Radar. 6091121.jpg has already appeared in the picture slot of DYK on Wikipedia:Recent_additions/2018/November#9_November_2018. The QPQ requirement is insufficient since it only commented on eligibility, and was not a full review of all DYK criteria as per WP:DYKRR. Please provide a complete review for QPQ. Flibirigit (talk) 15:25, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Flibirigit: Let me know when you have decided. Maury Markowitz (talk) 15:36, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Fort clarity, I do not expect any neutrality issues but I have not completely read the article. I shold have that completed by tomorrow. My primary concerns are the hook and QPQ. Flibirigit (talk) 19:21, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I did some minor copyediting, and no neutrality concerns noted. Please see above comments for the hooks and QPQ. Thanks for this nomination! Flibirigit (talk) 22:43, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Echoes of Life Tour

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    Created by Henni147 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Henni147 (talk) 04:58, 9 October 2024 (UTC). Alright, I'm going to attempt reviewing this. First review for me, so it'll take a bit of time. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:19, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: No - refer to comments
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: 3.8% at earwig, not too sure about hookinterest. Will need a second opinion. Pinging User:Sky Harbor. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 23:27, 10 October 2024 (UTC) [reply]

    Hook discussion
    Thank you very much for taking on this review! I was not sure about the hook myself. Alternatives could be that it's (1) the second solo ice show tour to be ever produced or (2) that the show deals with the ethics of artificial intelligence among others (which is a rather unusual topic for an entertainment event). Do you think, that might work? If yes, I will try to figure out how to phrase and source the hook best. Henni147 (talk) 07:12, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think the current hook would pass scrutiny per WP:DYKSO: The hook should not put emphasis on a commercial release date of the article subject. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Pinging @Henni147:, I guess ALT1 (...that Echos of Life Tour is the second solo ice show tour to be ever produced?) may do the job? ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 01:22, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5 and AlphaBetaGamma: Then let's go with ALT1? I just need to find a source that explicitely mentions 'Echoes of Life' as the second solo tour production. It's quite a clear fact because Hanyu's Repray Tour in 2023–24 was the first one, and no other skater has ever produced or performed a solo ice show. But we need to support it by a reliable secondary source. Henni147 (talk) 08:23, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT1 is probably not a good idea as it is an exceptional claim and thus would require exceptional sourcing. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:21, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: We just got the news that a full story book will be published before the first show for better access and understanding of the story. Would that be suitable for a hook text? It's quite unusual that a show or concert tour is accompanied by a book. I expect Japanese newspapers to publish some detailed reports within the next few hours. Henni147 (talk) 09:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, because a hook about a book being published would arguably count as advertising and would not fly among the DYK regulars. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 10:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Narutolovehinata5: True, didn't think of the promotional aspect. There is one more idea for a hook:

    ALT3: "... that the Echoes of Life Tour by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu is directed by Mikiko who also choreographed the Tokyo handover segment at the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?"

    This hook is supported by the source above and this one by the Japan Times newspaper: "The Tokyo handover segment of the Rio 2016 closing ceremony balanced cool imagery, references galore and meme-worthy moments. That team included musician Sheena Ringo and choreographer Mikiko Mizuno [...]" Henni147 (talk) 11:08, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    According to the tool I'm using, the hook is 203 in prose, which exceeeds the 200 limit. ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 00:06, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @AlphaBetaGamma: Oh okay, so the "that" at the beginning is not included in the count. Does this adjustment work?

    ALT3 (shortened): "... that the Echoes of Life Tour by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu is directed by Mikiko who was also involved in the choreography of the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?"
    Sources: Hanyu Yuzuru to unveil 'Echoes of Life' show on 30th birthday (Olympics.com) and The Olympic opening ceremony that wasn't (The Japan Times).

    This hook should have 195 characters now, but better check as well to be sure. Henni147 (talk) 07:25, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Yeah, that's 195 characters. Guess that's a wrap? ABG (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 09:31, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @AlphaBetaGamma and Narutolovehinata5: Thank you very much for checking the hook and taking on this review in general. I hope, all issues have been fixed now. I wonder if the review template at the top needs to be updated to conclude the review? I'm not familiar with the system. Henni147 (talk) 10:11, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Henni147 and AlphaBetaGamma: I'm not sure I find the hook too enticing. Like, the fact that the performer and director were both in/at the Olympics is cool, but not the kind of thing that would make someone likely to read the full article. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 07:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Theleekycauldron: The idea behind this hook is that the Echoes of Life Tour is a solo tour of figure skating performances, and figure skating is an Olympic winter sport. Having the only two-time Olympic champion of men's skating since 1952 as the main performer and an Olympic choreographer as a director is basically like watching an Olympic-level performance, which should be triggering enough to read more about it.
    Background info: The athletic content of Hanyu's last two solo shows levelled the complexity of the current world record in men's singles (6 clean quadruple jumps among others) and featured multiple Olympic-winning programs. This is not just some fancy ice show, but a serious sports performance as well. Since 'Echoes of Life' is the third installment of the series, the athletic merit is expected to be of the same caliber as its predecessors.
    I'll try to figure out how to adjust the hook in a way that it sounds more exciting. I'm open to smart suggestions. Henni147 (talk) 10:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Given that this is a figure skating article, maybe Figureskatingfan might have some hook suggestions? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:29, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Since you asked, I think that ALT3 is fine. How 'bout this for a shorter version, though: ALT4: "... that the Echoes of Life Tour by two-time Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu is directed by Mikiko, a choreographer of the 2016 Summer Olympics closing ceremony?" Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 19:07, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That's a bit on the long side and may have too many distracting blue links. Maybe it could be revised further? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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    Sanewashing

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    • Source: Tornoe, Rob (2024-10-01). "The 'sanewashing' phenomenon". Editor and Publisher. Retrieved 2024-10-05. So, how do you avoid sanewashing Trump or any other politician? The first thing you can do is employ a 'truth sandwich' in your coverage. Developed by author and linguist George Lakoff and promoted by New York University professor and author Jay Rosen, it basically means to surround a lie or misstatement with the truth.
    5x expanded by Soibangla (talk), Jonathan Deamer (talk), and Superb Owl (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    Jonathan Deamer (talk) 08:22, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • 2 bits of jargon readers are unlikely to know is too many for a hook. I would try another one that focuses on sane washing specifically without introducing other terms. (t · c) buidhe 23:57, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • ALT2: ... that Will Bunch, columnist at The Philadelphia Inquirer, believes sanewashing "has all but clinched Merriam-Webster's Word of the Year for 2024"? The Philadelphia Inquirer: "I think sanewashing has all but clinched Merriam-Webster’s Word of the Year for 2024 — not just for its cleverness, but because finding the right language may be having a positive impact on our politics and our future."
      • ALT3: ... that according to Urban Dictionary, the word sanewashing was coined in a Reddit forum for neoliberals in 2020? Columbia Journalism Review: "The term itself actually isn’t new, and it wasn’t born in media-criticism circles, per se; according to Urban Dictionary, it was coined in 2020 on a Reddit page for neoliberals (which Linda Kinstler wrote about recently for CJR), and meant “attempting to downplay a person or idea’s radicality to make it more palatable to the general public."
    @buidhe Thanks for the feedback! Fair point. I've added two alternatives above. I'm trying to keep it about language/journalism rather than go into an (even more) political territory for DYK purposes. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 17:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT2 doesn't seem like a hook unless it happens, the etymology mentioned in ALT3 is not particularly noteworthy for 21st century neologisms. I feel like you should have some good material in the article, maybe a hook focusing on a particular alleged instance or in relation to the main political figure to which it's applied (i.e. trump) would be better. (t · c) buidhe 14:10, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @buidhe I hear you on "focusing on a particular alleged instance or in relation to the main political figure to which it's applied". Here are a couple of different spins on a similar idea:
        • ALT4: ... that both Tim Walz and JD Vance were accused of sanewashing in the 2024 vice presidential debate? MSNBC: On Tuesday, Vance took that same "sanewashing" approach to the debate stage in New York. When pressed by the moderators about Trump calling climate change a "hoax," for example, Vance deflected. Instead of answering yes or no, Vance tried to "interpret" for Trump. The Hill: The term 'sanewashing' is going around among liberal media critics, the idea that the media is too willing to normalize [former President] Trump and Vance's behavior," Silver said in a Substack post Wednesday. "Wasn't Walz sanewashing Vance? He said nothing about the Republican ticket's conspiratorial claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets, for instance.
        • ALT5: ... that Nate Silver suggested Tim Walz was sanewashing by not mentioning Donald Trump's "conspiratorial claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets" in the 2024 vice presidential debate? The Hill: The term 'sanewashing' is going around among liberal media critics, the idea that the media is too willing to normalize [former President] Trump and Vance's behavior," Silver said in a Substack post Wednesday. "Wasn't Walz sanewashing Vance? He said nothing about the Republican ticket's conspiratorial claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets, for instance.
    Not a full review. I'm not sure about notability. WP:NEO specifies that use of a term does not count towards the notability of the term, only mentions of it do. It's why we don't have a page for, say, kiwi (word) but do for antidisestablishmentarianism (word). Mediaite, for instance, only indirectly mentions the term in passing by embedding a Tweet. The October New York Times source does not mention the term at all.
    All non-primary sources (all sources not directly coining the term) come from 2024, and the term might just be a passing fad that disappears with the conclusion of the election. It might even be folded into Rhetoric of Donald Trump, as it just seems to be a spinoff. Bremps... 21:32, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks Bremps. This was discussed Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sanewashing with a result of keep. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 08:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Jurong East MRT station

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    • ... that it was proposed for the Jurong East MRT station in Singapore to have a recurring disco to increase its vibrancy?
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Add wikilinks for 'Jurong East MRT station'
    Improved to Good Article status by ZKang123 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Imbluey2 . Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 14:17, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Claiming this for review and hope to get to this within the next few days. For what it's worth I like the hook and think it's interesting. I've made some copyedits to the hook such as linking and bolding. Given that the nominator is Imbluey2 and not ZKang123, no QPQ is necessary. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:43, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article was promoted to GA status on time and I didn't find any close paraphrasing (the 34.6% figure Earwig gives is a false positive). No QPQ is needed for Imbluey2 as nominator (had ZKang123 done the nom, a QPQ would have been required). The hook is interesting and cited inline. My only concern is a minor one: the article/hook and the source do not fully agree. The article says that Yao proposed discos, but the newspaper source said a disco. That may need to be clarified. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:54, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The newspaper said a reoccurring disco in the station. It should be added to the hook as "it was proposed for the Jurong East MRT station in Singapore to host a reoccurring disco party to increase its vibrancy?". Maybe modify the "reoccuring" part since it doesn't really flow well imo. Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 13:49, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello @Narutolovehinata5? Can we continue with the DYK nomination? Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 23:56, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm still waiting for the discrepancy to be resolved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5 fixed the DYK hook to "a recurring disco" since the newspaper source said that it was proposed for people to host a disco. Yeo's quote of justifying his proposal implied that the disco would recurring ("maybe in the evenings", evenings in this context implies reccurance imo). Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 10:49, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know. The source doesn't outright say "recurring", and while one could argue that the meaning is implied, the lack of a direct support from the source probably makes that specific wording unsafe. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:19, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Just to follow-up, the article and hook still need to match the source before this can be approved.

    Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:25, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Sorry, I've been busy the past few days and forgot about this. Anyways, I was wondering if it's possible to get a third party to comment on this matter? It's unclear what the news article meant so I think we should get someone else's oponion.Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 15:00, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Trainsandotherthings and SounderBruce: Would it be okay if either of you take a look at this and give feedback on the hook sourcing and wording? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:43, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi, thanks for the ping. Based on my interpretation of the source, the person proposing the disco wanted to hold it in the evenings (plural) which implies a recurring event. That's just my reading of the source, so I don't claim to be objectively correct. I've placed this discussion on my watchlist for a month, so I'm happy to help out further if needed. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 14:20, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    FYI, I'm still waiting for @SounderBruce:'s response. In the meantime, I agree with Trainsandotherthings's interpretation. Or I could propose another DYK for this article.Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 02:52, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hermance Edan

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    • Source: French Patent office, Brevet n° 396.795
    • ALT1: ... that little is known of Hermance Edan before she patented her first board game in 1908, at the age of 57? Source: French Patent office, Brevet n° 396.795
    • ALT2: ... that L'Attaque, the board game that became Stratego, was patented in 1908 by its designer, a 57-year-old woman? Source: French Patent office, Brevet n° 396.795 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Farrest (talk • contribs) 05:06, 6 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: I translated this article from the French, so the references in the article may need some work, but Edan's age at the time of her patent seems well-attested. Thanks for your consideration!
    Created by Farrest (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Farrest (talk) 20:41, 5 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    How about this reworking?

    • ALT0a: ... that Hermance Edan designed the board game that would become Stratego without any professional game development experience?

    theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 08:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • Hmm, your version flows better as a sentence than my original ALT0, but what interested and inspired me when I came across the French article was Edan's gender and her age when she designed the game (especially given the time), so I think it would be more compelling if those facts were included in the hook... what do you think of ALT2, or something like it? Farrest (talk) 04:55, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      My preference would be for ALT2 or ALT. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 6

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    ZIZ

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    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Typhoon Virginia (1957)
    • Comment: It all started last weekend when I Googled up "Caribbean broadcasting call signs" while browsing results for various regional TV stations on a whim. A GBooks result offered a tidbit on an entity called VP2LO, a shortwave outlet that in the years ahead evolved into the Kittitian national broadcaster--a topic I broke ground on back in my early days on WP. (I was lucky to save it from A7 during its December 2007 launch--barely.) Face it, WP is still in dire need of better and more extensive coverage on Caribbean media.
    Apologies if I used a thesis here, but regrettably, it's the only source mentioning this factoid--anywhere--as far as Google's aware (WP:AGF). Meanwhile, as I type, Doc Taxon at WP:RX has been taking care of the last three bits we need to get this finished.
    First of two DYK candidates of mine before Milton approaches my home area; see you in another couple of hours with the next one.
    P.S. Wonder if there are any established editors from Saint Kitts and Nevis itself? (I myself hail from Dominica.)
    P.P.S. As always, special greetings to Barbados' CaribDigita (talk · contribs) and Trinidad's Guettarda (talk · contribs)--along with SafariScribe (talk · contribs), who approved one of my recent go-rounds at AFC, The Right and the Wrong.
    5x expanded by Slgrandson (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

    Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 23:52, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Celie Ellis Turner

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    • ... that despite the classical music education her wealthy family had her study, Celie Ellis Turner chose to join comic opera and farce theatre over her parents' objections?
    • Source: * "Miss Ellis is a graduate of the Villa Maria Convent of Montreal, Canada, and received her musical education under Mme. Kartel, taking a post graduate course at the Metropolitan College of Music in New York." - Celie Ellis, The Sentinel
    • "She comes from one of the best families in New York, her father having been a Congressman from that State and her mother a near relative of ex-Gov. Seymour. Her family objected strongly to her going on the stage..." - At The Gardens, St. Louis Post-Dispatch
    • "Miss Celie Ellis, who has been prominent in comic opera and farce comedy for a number of years..." - Dramatic, Minneapolis Daily Times
  • ALT1 ... that despite her classical music education and her family's objections to her becoming a stage actress, Celie Ellis Turner chose to join the theatre to perform comic opera and farce?
    • Created by Silver seren (talk) and FloridaArmy (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 131 past nominations.

    SilverserenC 19:38, 8 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Looks good. Nice work. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:43, 8 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Theleekycauldron, BeanieFan11, Silver seren, Fram, and Secretlondon: this nom has been reopened for further thought, following issues raised at WP:ERRORS (peramlink: [4]) about the hook / article integrity (article talks about an argument over theatre acting, not over comic opera specifically) and also a thought that linking the classical music education to the argument with the family with the word despite isn't supported by sourcing. Suggest a rework to make this more robust.  — Amakuru (talk) 23:59, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Amakuru, this is, honestly, nonsense. Comic opera and farce is the type of theatre acting and performances she went into. They objected to her doing theatre acting and she did anyways, becoming a star in comic opera and farce theatre. Where is the contradiction? SilverserenC 00:02, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    As noted, there are two issues that I can see with this. Firstly, the "despite" seems to be misplaced - comic opera is a form of classical music, so it's not like her musical education went to waste while she pursued something totally different. You're inserting a link between those things that isn't sourced. And secondly, the article text and the source specifically say it was stage acting specifically that the family objected to. That might have a logical corrollary that they wouldn't approve of comic opera and farce, but the DYK rules require accuracy in this matter. The hook, article and source must match in what they say, not require logical leaps. Cheers  — Amakuru (talk) 00:17, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Amakuru, is that ALT better since I've minorly rearranged things? SilverserenC 00:24, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    The Children's Book of Virtues

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    Moved to mainspace by Slgrandson (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

    Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 03:16, 9 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    I was wondering why I got pinged to a random DYK, now I know! :D SirMemeGod  12:20, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Sir MemeGod: Sorry, I mixed up my reviewers days ago; see above for correction. (You actually approved Children's, while Bkissin approved Compass.) --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 8

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    Diane Leather

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    • ... that Diane Leather was the first woman to run a mile in under five minutes?
    5x expanded by Oldelpaso (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Oldelpaso (talk) 22:24, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Can we do better than this? If any woman has run the mile in under 5 minutes, someone had to be the first, and the hook doesn't provide any more information. (t · c) buidhe 23:51, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you saying a world record isn't notable and/or hook worthy? Or are you asking for more context such as a link to Mile run world record progression? I was trying to keep the hook as succinct as possible. Oldelpaso (talk) 02:01, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Another issue is that the hook proposed is a "first" hook, which per WP:DYKHOOK usually needs exceptionally strong sourcing given the exceptional claim involved (how are we sure that no other woman before Leather ran a mile in under five minutes?) Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:21, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article includes cites describing her in those terms from the World Athletics website (the organisation that ratifies world records in the discipline, formerly known as the IAAF)[5], the BBC [6], Guardian [7], NYT [8], Washington Post [9] and others. Oldelpaso (talk) 21:37, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I could work in some reference to Roger Bannister in the hook, as his far more well-known first sub-four minute mile occurred the same month and thus they are frequently compared, but I'd rather not. It was how overlooked Leather's achievement was compared to the male equivalent that prompted me to expand the article in the first place! Oldelpaso (talk) 21:55, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    A bit of a late comment, but ALT1 is probably a lot better because it's not a "first" hook and is thus more likely to be accurate. Plus it's also arguably more intriguing than a simple "first" hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:16, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 9

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    Musa al-Gharbi

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    • ... that Musa al-Gharbi has argued since the 2016 election of Donald Trump that media outlets including The New York Times opinion page and MSNBC have failed to understand his supporters?
    • Source: "For the past four years, Al-Gharbi tried to tell anyone who would listen that Trump supporters did not in fact fit the sociological profile offered on The New York Times opinion page or on MSNBC’s nightly pearl-clutching roundtables." Tablet
    Created by Thriley (talk) and Oganguly (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 148 past nominations.

    Thriley (talk) 07:16, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Regards, Aafi (talk) 15:57, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Although all checks are okay, I am not happy with how the proposed hook is worded? 183 characters is quite close to 200. Could you please suggest a few more hooks? Regards, Aafi (talk) 15:57, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    MrBeast Lab

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    • ... that the MrBeast Lab toy line first debuted in a pop-up store in the shape of an overturned tanker truck carrying toxic waste?
    Created by Johnson524 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.

    Johnson524 17:08, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Manga and anime fandom in Poland

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    Created by Piotrus (talk) and Oliwiasocz (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 529 past nominations.

    Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:57, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 10

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    Florentina Holzinger

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    • ... that Florentina Holzinger's work includes nude all-female casts, live sex, self-mutilation, dildo use, defecation, coprophagia and live piercing, leading to severe nausea for some theatregoers?
    • Source: "Eighteen theatregoers at Stuttgart’s state opera required medical treatment for severe nausea over the weekend after watching a performance that included live piercing, unsimulated sexual intercourse and copious amounts of fake and real blood." The Guardian etc
    Created by Edwardx (talk) and Deborahjay (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 336 past nominations.

    Edwardx (talk) 19:45, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    ALT1: ... that over the opening weekend of Florentina Holzinger's first opera, eighteen audience members required medical treatment for severe nausea?--Launchballer 18:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Full review needed. (I do think we underestimate how strong our readers' stomachs are, but that's by the by.)--Launchballer 12:35, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Santa Maria Maggiore, Venice

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    Created by Bogger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 27 past nominations.

    Bogger (talk) 08:13, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • The current hook is a bit hard to read and might need some trimming. How about:
    ALT1 ... that following its deconsecration, the Church of Santa Maria Maggiore in Venice and its grounds have been used as a stable, a tobacco warehouse, and a prison?
    Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:06, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article also has a couple of stub tags (which it shouldn't have, since it's not a stub); both need to be removed before this is approved. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:18, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bogger: Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: Removed. ALT1 also fine by me.-Bogger (talk) 08:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Last Call BBS

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    Created by CanonNi (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    '''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 08:32, 10 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 11

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    Salmon n' Bannock

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    • ... that Salmon n' Bannock's notoriety led to the owner reconnecting with her long-lost family?
    Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 44 past nominations.

    Ornithoptera (talk) 02:55, 12 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. Full QPQ has been done, and no close paraphrasing was found apart from the cited quotes. All of the hooks are cited inline, but I only focused on the original hook as it is the most interesting option. It and ALT2 (the backup option) are verified in the source. My only concern is that ALT0 doesn't exactly match either the article or the source: the hook says "notoriety", but that wording is not supported and neither the article nor the article suggests that the restaurant is notorious. So ALT0 will need some rewording. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:45, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Thank you for your time in undergoing this review Narutolovehinata5. I hope you enjoyed reading the article. It is true that the source articles do not explicitly mention notoriety, which can hamper the hook a bit. If you have a suggestion on an alternative wording for ALT0, I would appreciate it. Urwin's article under "Soon after opening, the restaurant was met not only with accolades..." has the whole story. The restaurant was well known enough (thus the notoriety piece) to have individuals from the Nuxalk nation come by and reconnect her, but it is difficult for me to figure out an alternative way to phrase it. Ornithoptera (talk) 04:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ornithoptera: Maybe: ALT0a ... that the opening of Salmon n' Bannock led to the owner reconnecting with her long-lost family?, or even ALT0b ... that the public interest in Salmon n' Bannock after opening led to the owner reconnecting with her long-lost family? Given the introduction of new facts, a different editor would be needed to sign either off. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:17, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT0a should check out with me, the alternative wording in ALT0b is a tiny bit too convoluted in my eyes. Ornithoptera (talk) 04:21, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Cool. I guess we'll need a new reviewer to sign off ALT0a. I was about to say that ALT2 might need tweaking to meet the "unlikely to change criterion" since there's no assurance that it will be all-indigenous forever, but I doubt it will change so I'll let it slide. Once ALT0a is signed off, the final choice will be left to the promoter. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:12, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Aaj Ki Raat (2024 song)

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    Created by KunalAggarwal95 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

    KunalAggarwal95 (talk) 16:44, 11 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Anatolii Brezvin

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    Created by Flibirigit (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 156 past nominations.

    Flibirigit (talk) 21:52, 11 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Reviewing...:
    • New enough: yes.
    • Long enough: more than long enough (very nice!).
    • Adequate sourcing: given that most of the sources are in Ukrainian or Russian, I had to use translation tools to verify that the basic facts of the biography are well-sourced.
    • Neutral: yes.
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Not sure if closely translating is considered plagiarism or paraphrasing? I'm inclined to accept this as is.
    • Hooks cited: yes.
    • Hooks interesting: maybe? The original hook could be interesting enough. The two alts don't seem particularly interesting to me compared to the original. But I think the original could be improved by mentioning that the target 60 wasn't reached but I'm unsure if this can fit within the 200 character limit and/or whether this violates WP:DYKHOOKBLP. Basically I'm kinda okay with the original hook but would like to workshop this more. Maybe something like: ... that Anatolii Brezvin began an ambitious program to open 60 ice rinks in Ukraine within five years but only managed to complete 12 and refurbish two? (148 characters).
    • QPQ: Both done.
    Overall, the article is a very nice addition to Wikipedia, but maybe we could have a better hook? —seav (talk) 22:36, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Expanding ALT0 to include what resulted from the program is not going to entice anyone to click the link, since they already know that he failed. I feel that I identified the three most interesting aspects in the biography and proposed a hook for each. Possible more interesting hooks would be from odd juxtapositions. I will comment further tomorrow. Flibirigit (talk) 17:22, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Here are some other hooks based on odd juxtapositions. I have struck the hook from the reviewer as per my comments above. Flibirigit (talk) 23:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm okay with ALT3 or ALT6 —seav (talk) 05:45, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Requesting a second opinion on all hooks listed above. No detailed rationale was given for six hooks not being approved. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 13:06, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 12

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    Ragnvi Torslow

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    • ... that Ragnvi Torslow, a five-time Swedish figure skating champion in 1920s went on to be one of the founders of the Bilkåren voluntary defence corps, training 3000 women to drive during World War II?
    • Reviewed:
    Created by MumphingSquirrel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    MumphingSquirrel (talk) 18:19, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 13

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    Elin Falk

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    Elin Falk
    Elin Falk
    • ... that Elin Falk revolutionised the teaching of gymnastics in Swedish schools in the early twentieth century?
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    Created by MumphingSquirrel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    MumphingSquirrel (talk) 21:01, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: No - discuss, please offer an ALT or two
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Great to see this article. I have questions about the choice and use of some sources. I think these can all be corrected, and some discussion may be beneficial. ProfGray (talk) 19:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • Hook: "revolutionised" seems laudatory and afaik that word is not in the source; "reform" is used and seems more NPOV. Would help to have a hook that says something about the reforms, such as from a military to a more playful style. Or about how the reforms were met with anger and condemnation.
    • Posture not mentioned in source cited, but perhaps "correcting body position" is meant?
    • Primary sources are at current footnotes #1, #4. And #7 is by the subject herself. #2 unclear. Second opinion would be helpful here.
    • Source #5 links to a WP article IINM, seems to need correction.
    • It'd be helpful to find more independent sources about her.
    • Overly praising POV includes: "Like so many innovative thinkers, Falk met opposition in her lifetime, with full recognition and appreciation," "Newspapers became involved, publishing condemnation of the exercises without having read about them, let alone tried them" (i.e., critical of her critics), praising: "was as critical of herself as of others, jetisoning any of her ideas which did not work as she had hoped," ProfGray (talk) 20:11, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Gutidara

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    Created by FaysaLBinDaruL (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    I have already completed 2 QPQs (1, 2). FaysaLBinDaruL (talk) 18:37, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Chen Qiyou

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    • ... that Chen Qiyou, a would-be assassin, later became part of the Chinese Committee for World Peace?
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 688 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Thokchom Chandrasekhar Singh

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    • Source: Who's who in the Manipur Legislative Assembly. Manipur Legislative Assembly Secretariat., 1964. p. 10
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 405 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 15:15, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    1957 Manipur Territorial Council election

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    • Source: V. Venkata Rao. A Century of Government and Politics in North East India, 1874-1980: Manipur. S. Chand, 1991. pp. 92-93, 194
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 404 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 15:12, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Anastasia Somoza

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    Created by Innisfree987 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 40 past nominations.

    Innisfree987 (talk) 09:30, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Nazi crimes against children

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    Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:09, 13 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Common fixed point problem

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    • Source: "The purpose of this paper is to answer Dyer's question in the negative by the construction of a pair of commuting functions which have no fixed point in common. [...] This paper is a condensation of the author's 1967 doctoral dissertation", from a paper by Boyce . "It has been conjectured that any two continuous functions f, g mapping the closed unit interval into itself which commute under composition [...] must have a common fixed point [...] Chapter 2 defines a pair of functions which show that the conjecture is false", from Huneke's 1967 PhD dissertation.
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: If the reviewer doesn't have ProQuest access, I can provide a copy of Huneke's dissertation over email.
    Created by WillisBlackburn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    jlwoodwa (talk) 19:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Starting review...
    • Article is new enough and long enough
    • Sources all appear to be WP:RS and for the most part, adequately cited with in-line citations. There are however two {{citation needed}} tags which need to be addressed.
    • Earwig calls out a few phrases here and there but they all look like technical terms which can't be rephrased, so no problems there.
    • Extra brownie points for taking an exceptionally technical article and writing a hook which will appeal to most readers. RoySmith (talk) 22:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Bliss (photograph)

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    Improved to Good Article status by Vacant0 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 12 past nominations.

    Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Bliss is still copyrighted right? DYK doesn't allow fair-use pictures to be used on the Main Page unfortunately. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:28, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, it is copyrighted and owned by Microsoft. It would be cool to include the photograph but I'm unsure if DYK rules allow this. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 20:16, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    From WP:DYKIMG: The media must be freely licensed—fair-use images are not permitted on the Main Page. So the answer is no. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:44, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'd rather prefer other proposed blurbs. Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Yen and Ai-Lee

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    • ... that the director of Yen and Ai-Lee created the film to collaborate with his actress wife?
    Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

    Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 14:34, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    1. ^ Chou, Inna (4 October 2024). "《小雁與吳愛麗》入圍釜山影展、金馬8項大獎！劇情、上映日期、預告⋯電影資訊一覽". Vogue Taiwan (in Chinese). Retrieved 15 October 2024. 導演林書宇也進一步透露拍攝《小雁與吳愛麗》的靈感，就是來自於想要和妻子夏于喬一起拍一部電影 [Director Tom Lin Shu-yu further revealed that the inspiration for Yen and Ai-Lee came from his desire to make a film with his wife, Kimi Hsia.]
    2. ^ Liao, Yu-yang; Lai, Sunny (11 October 2024). "Taiwanese film wins top prize at Busan Int'l Film Festival". Focus Taiwan. Retrieved 15 October 2024. Taiwanese film "Yen and Ai-Lee" (小雁與吳愛麗) won the Busan International Film Festival's (BIFF) top prize "Kim Jiseok Award" on Friday, marking the first Taiwanese film to receive the award.
    3. ^ 許瑞麟 (1 October 2024). "林書宇專訪／《小雁與吳愛麗》寫過最沒把握的劇本 接受自己的「工整」：這是我的天性". Yahoo! News (in Chinese). Retrieved 14 October 2024. 「一開始在寫劇本的時候，我只是想要看到一個更生人的夏于喬，同時我也想要看到另外一個在上表演課的夏于喬，但這兩個角色是怎麼一回事，其實寫的時候我不知道。」沒想到寫著寫著，便將片中「兩個夏于喬」連結在一起，為觀眾增添了一點驚喜。 ["At the beginning of writing the script, I just wanted to see a rehabilitated Kimi Hsia, while also wanting to see another Hsia taking acting classes, but I did not know how these two characters would connect." Unexpectedly, as he continued writing, he merged the "two Kimi Hsias" into one, adding a surprise for the audience.]
    4. ^ Howell, June (3 October 2024). "夏于喬、林書宇首度合作《小雁與吳愛麗》成金馬獎贏家，亮眼成績背後藏深刻夫妻相處之道：「下班就不要談公事！」". Tatler Asia (in Chinese). Retrieved 14 October 2024. 選擇黑白的視覺呈現方式，並非一個單純的美學決定，而是一種深刻情感的凝聚與放大。林書宇指出，這部電影並不是史詩般的宏大敘事，而是細膩捕捉母女之間複雜的情感流動。他認為，黑白影像能夠去除色彩的干擾，使觀眾更專注於演員的表演。 [The choice of a black-and-white visual style is not merely an aesthetic decision but a way to condense and amplify deep emotions. Tom Lin Shu-yu pointed out that this film is not an epic narrative, but rather delicately captures the complex emotional flow between a mother and daughter. He believes that black-and-white imagery removes the distraction of color, allowing the audience to focus more on the actors' performances.]
    5. ^ Scott, Matthew (10 October 2024). "It's all there in black and white in 'Yen and Ai-Lee'". Taiwan News. Retrieved 14 October 2024. First, the film deals with domestic violence, and Lin chose to shoot in black and white.
    6. ^ "平衡直覺與現實，在限制中找到自由──專訪《小雁與吳愛麗》導演林書宇". Filmaholic (in Chinese). 10 October 2024. Retrieved 14 October 2024. 他親自開車到處尋找鄉鎮，一個個拍照、調成黑白看感覺，因景觀樣貌而非文化特性挑中了美濃。 [He (Tom Lin Shu-yu) personally drove around searching for towns, taking photos and adjusting them to black-and-white to gauge the feel, ultimately choosing Meinong based on its landscape rather than its cultural characteristics.]
    7. ^ "平衡直覺與現實，在限制中找到自由──專訪《小雁與吳愛麗》導演林書宇". Filmaholic (in Chinese). 10 October 2024. Retrieved 14 October 2024. 本片令人印象深刻的長鏡頭開場，便是情急之下生出的靈光──原本林書宇安排很多分鏡，小雁會騎腳踏車經過夜市，鏡頭先帶到眾人看她的反應，才轉而見到小雁本人。景都勘好了，卻無奈碰上無法控制的雨，如果將就在有雨的狀況下拍了一顆，下一顆鏡頭便要考慮連戲問題，但又沒預算發水車⋯⋯。為此，林書宇連夜苦思後決定：改用一顆長鏡頭搞定，並利用多 roll 的空景時間拿來放片頭 credit。 [The film’s iconic long take opening scene was born from a moment of urgency—originally, Tom Lin Shu-yu had planned many shots where Yen would ride her bicycle through the night market, first showing the reactions of those watching before revealing Yen herself. The locations were scouted, but unfortunately, they faced uncontrollable rain; if they filmed in the rain for one shot, they would have to consider continuity for the next shot, but there was no budget for a water truck... As a result, after a night of contemplation, Lin Shu-yu decided to use a single long take to accomplish this and utilized the extra roll of empty scenery to display the opening credits.]

    Ratnākara

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    • ... that Ratnākara may have invented the poetic device of vakrokti ("verbal distortion")?
    • ALT1: ... that Ratnākara's Vakroktipañcāśikā contains fifty verses of dialogue between Śiva and Pārvatī, employing the poetic device of vakrokti ("verbal distortion")?
    • ALT2: ... that a now-lost chronicle of the kings of Kashmir, covering two "gaps" in Kalhaṇa's Rājataraṅginī, is attributed to Ratnākara?
    • Reviewed:
    Created by TryKid (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    TryKid [dubious – discuss] 07:48, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    It might be better to just focus on ALT2 as ALT1 still seems to rely on specialist knowledge and not something that's self-evident from a reading. ALT2 is still slightly specialist but it's at least more understandable. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:02, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    2018 Batman by-election

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    Improved to Good Article status by GraziePrego (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    GraziePrego (talk) 03:11, 15 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    TarnishedPathtalk 06:38, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 21:16, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Frank A. Kimball

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    Portrait of Frank Augustus Kimball.
    Portrait of Frank Augustus Kimball.
    Moved to mainspace by RightCowLeftCoast (talk), SDPLPauline (talk), Dasee8y (talk), and Thinkstationx220 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 36 past nominations.

    RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 03:42, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Hi @RightCowLeftCoast:! This article is new enough, long enough, no copyvio, certainly well-sourced. I think the first hook is the most interesting. QPQ done.
    This is nice work, but I have some problems to address: I don't understand the phrase "build a transcontinental railroad Pacific terminus" on the page, could you clear it up? Do we know why Kimball wrote a family history of Estudillo? Was he a relation? Otherwise that sentence is a bit out of left field. The information in the lede about him donating land for cemeteries, schools, and churches is not in the body, could you incorporate it (and maybe elaborate on it)? The current DYK image is not sufficiently clear at this resolution (but this image, which is already used on the page, probably would be). Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 19:02, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, the first hook probably has the wrong citation. I can't see anything about thousands of acres. Maybe a citation to this would be more appropriate? Tenpop421 (talk) 19:06, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Lyncoya Jackson

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    • ... that the adoption of a Muscogee orphan Lyncoya by Andrew Jackson was framed by Jackson's political allies as a defense against charges that Jackson was a bloodthirsty Indian killer?
    5x expanded by Jengod (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 199 past nominations.

    KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Liliget Feast House

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    Created by Ornithoptera (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 45 past nominations.

    Ornithoptera (talk) 22:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Port Mercer, New Jersey

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    5x expanded by Lbal (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Lbal (talk) 22:00, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Anne Marie Armstrong

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    • ALT2: ... that in high school, professional basketball player Anne Marie Armstrong won three state titles in volleyball, three state titles in basketball, and four state titles in track and field?
    • Reviewed:
    Created by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 15:59, 17 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Nice work on the article about Armstrong, WikiOriginal-9! It is sufficiently long enough and was created on the same day as this nomination was, so that is not an issue. Same goes for copyright violations as well. The one concern I have is that I don't find the hook interesting – if I were to read this on the Main Page at the moment, I'd think to myself, "who is Armstrong and in which area or sport did she win 10 state titles in?". Thus, I think it needs a little more work in terms of context and clarity as noted above. The source for it is fine, though. Thanks! ~ Tails Wx 20:42, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @WikiOriginal-9: Please address the above.--Launchballer 12:30, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Added ALT2. ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 17:32, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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    White Party (Sean Combs)

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    Created by No Swan So Fine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 122 past nominations.

    No Swan So Fine (talk) 21:17, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Griffin–Spalding County Airport

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    • Source: Despite the relatively short length of its then 3,100-long runway, Griffin's airport hosted various large piston aircraft including the Douglas DC-3 and the Aviation Traders Carvair, a cargo conversion of the DC-4 from the 1970s until the 1990s.
    Created by Mccunicano (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 49 past nominations.

    ❯❯❯ Mccunicano☕️ 18:29, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Rada Dyson-Hudson

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    Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 60 past nominations.

    ミラP@Miraclepine 21:28, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Kenneth Creer

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    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Interesting fact snippet on a page I just made.
    Created by Helge Kragh (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Spiralwidget (talk) 12:09, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    References

    1. ^ Kragh, Helge (29 November 2019). "Varying Constants of Nature: Fragments of a History". Physics in Perspective. 21: 257–273.

    Luo Shiwen

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    Luo Shiwen
    Luo Shiwen
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 691 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 16:06, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: No - Much of the article is cited to sources like "Devoting One's Efforts to the Party and the People is the Least of One's Worries——Deeds of Martyr Luo Shiwen", which doesn't speak well to their reliability. There is no consensus that Chinese government published sources are reliable for heroic deeds of party members (see, eg, WP:XINHUA).
    • Neutral: No - Unclear, see above
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: No - ? Unable to evaluate translation copyvio from Chinese language sources

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: No - Hook could use improvement. Such underground groups developed in so many locations that political prisoners are jailed together

    Image eligibility:

    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: (t · c) buidhe 04:59, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • Hi Buidhe. Thank you for taking a look at this article, though I note that you are supposed to notify the article's creator if you find issues.
    Referring to WP:XINHUA, which you mentioned in your review, the quorum mentioned there reads "Caution should be exercised in using this source, extremely so in case of extraordinary claims on controversial subjects or biographies of living people. When in doubt, try to find better sources instead; use inline attribution if you must use Xinhua." Little mentioned in the Luo Xinhua article crosses the bar of "extraordinary claims", and what does cross that bar is specifically attributed to the source (with an indication that it is state-owned). He lived, he did something, he was detained, he was executed. Where these government sources have been used, I have been careful not to use their description of persons whom the CCP has no reason to like (for example, the conflict with Zhang Guotao is cited to Howard rather than the decidedly less neutral CCP sources, and discussion of Xifeng is cited predominantly to a Harvard University Press book). Likewise, I have deliberately excluded politically charged claims such as Luo's father being bankrupted by the high ROC taxes.
    As per WP:PARTISAN, "reliable sources are not required to be neutral, unbiased, or objective." WP:CONTEXTMATTERS clarifies that "Each source must be carefully weighed to judge whether it is reliable for the statement being made in the Wikipedia article and is an appropriate source for that content." In this case, the sources are used specifically for basic statements of biography. Where statements were extraordinary, such as Mao and Zhou specifically asking for Luo's release, it has been attributed to the source with an indication of the source's potential bias.
    As for the hook, I am deliberately avoiding claims that are sourced exclusively to state-media. How do you feel about:
    ALT1 ... that Luo Shiwen (pictured) led a secret cell of the Chinese Communist Party that negotiated better conditions for inmates at their concentration camp?
    That ALT is supported entirely by Mühlhahn. Regards,  — Chris Woodrich (talk) 12:28, 19 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Xinhua is, according to consensus, generally reliable for factual reporting except in areas where the government of China may have a reason to use it for propaganda, but this topic is exactly one where the Chinese government would have an interest in distorting its own history in order to make the CCP look better. Perhaps other reviewers would have a different opinion, but I don't think that Chinese government published sources should be cited so heavily. (In case you are looking for additional sources, this one is accessible via TWL and seems to mention the article subject). (t · c) buidhe 00:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I think I have Wakeman sitting around somewhere. I'll cite that for a few points, and I can cite some more to the pithy provided by Howard. That being said, a blanket prohibition against mainland Chinese sources (we've been talking about Xinhua, but Sichuan Annals are cited more prevalently, and both the original books and the web edition have the same government ties) for a figure of little interest to KMT historians does seem counter-productive. It may be best to have a third opinion. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 01:39, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I also don't think there should be a ban on CCP sources for uncontroversial statements. I'll investigate further when my head's a bit clearer.--Launchballer 10:55, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Or indeed, any Chinese government-backed sources; claims should be assessed on their merits. (They probably aren't making up "son of a saltmonger", for example.) @Buidhe: what specific sentences are you objecting to?--Launchballer 13:06, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    My interpretation (see above) is that there is a consensus that the Chinese government sources are not reliable where they have an incentive to lie for propaganda purposes. When it comes to the heroic deeds of a Communist party member, there is an obvious incentive for propaganda. This does not apply to basic biographical information that does not reflect positively or negatively on the subject (t · c) buidhe 02:12, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Lizzie Esau

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    Created by Launchballer (talk) and Georgeykiwi (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 254 past nominations.

    Launchballer 09:03, 18 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Michel Klein (veterinarian)

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    Michel Klein in 1996
    Michel Klein in 1996
    • ... that in the 1950s, Michel Klein (pictured) opened one of the first veterinary practices in Paris?
    • Source: "Michel Klein, born in 1921 in Romania, studied at the veterinary school in Toulouse, a city where he joined the resistance before fleeing to Spain. Back after the war, he was one of the first to open a veterinary office in Paris in the 1950s."
    Le Parisien
    Created by Thriley (talk) and ForsythiaJo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 150 past nominations.

    Thriley (talk) 22:29, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Izvestiya Soveta rabochikh i soldatskikh deputatov goroda Askhabada

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    • Source: А. А Росляков. Большевики Туркменистана в борьбе за власть Советов. Туркменское государственное изд-во, 1961. p. 328
    Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 406 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 17:35, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Film Essay on the Euphrates Dam

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    Created by Zanahary (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

    ꧁Zanahary꧂ 07:38, 19 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • I'm not sure how this hook squares up against the rules to avoid hooks solely based on the content of works, but regardless of that, I am not sure how it's interesting or relevant that, basically, the filmmaker changed his mind about something... (t · c) buidhe 23:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • That rule is: If the subject of the hook is a work of fiction or a fictional character, the hook must be focused on a real-world fact. This is a real-world fact about a nonfiction work. As for the fact, I think it's definitely unusual and remarkable for a filmmaker to make a film criticizing his own work. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 08:12, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: Yes
    • Neutral: Yes
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: No - Earwig says that phrases like "advent of the dam" and "through the lens of salvage ethnography" and "with an eighteenth-century BCE limestone statue of the goddess Ishtar excavated from the" are identical to what's in the abstract of ref 2, so they could be changed to avoid close paraphrasing unless it can't be avoided. "Naive early enthusiasm" is similar to "earlier naive enthusiasm" in ref 4, so "Naive early" or just "early" could be changed to "initial" if possible. Otherwise the whole thing's good.
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    • Cited: Yes - Offline/paywalled citation accepted in good faith
    • Interesting: Yes
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Nominated on creation day and sized at 2360 B. Can't access refs 2 and 3 to verify anything so will AGF. @Zanahary: I have to agree with you this hook is interesting based on your explanation, but fix the paraphrasing issue and you're good to go. Film Essay on the Euphrates Dam, which is linked in the hook, is a stub sized at 233 B, so if you want to expand it and make it a second bold, feel free to do so and ping me if you're done; I can even hold the nom for you for the time being. ミラP@Miraclepine 19:01, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for the review Miraclepine! I’ll fix the paraphrasing. I can also try to expand A Flood in Ba’ath Country. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:00, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Zanahary: I've found the fix satisfactory. I'll approve Film Essay on the Euphrates Dam, but ping me once A Flood in Baath Country is sufficiently expanded. ミラP@Miraclepine 20:33, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Miraclepine: I've done it! ꧁Zanahary꧂ 20:41, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Zanahary: Thank you. I'm busy with school right now and with other things, but I'll review this tonight or tomorrow. ミラP@Miraclepine 20:50, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Zanahary: Since your hook now has two bolded articles, please do a second QPQ. ミラP@Miraclepine 16:48, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Miraclepine: Done! here. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:41, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Zanahary: Thank you, I'll start reviewing the article now. And for the record: I'm putting it to where the first QPQ is listed for convenience. ミラP@Miraclepine 17:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: No - See below.
    • Neutral: No - Ref 21 says that the report of the cancellation (but not what the report led to) was a rumor; fix Jeune Afrique sentence to say that, and also to for due weight to note that the JCC organizers affirmed their anti-censorship guarantee at the time. I think the "strongly" in "strongly criticizes" is MOS:EDITORIALizing? Otherwise it's all good.
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: No - See below.
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: @Zanahary: Yeah, this article has serious problems with close paraphrasing which need to be fixed, as well as some issues with WP:V.

    Regarding WP:V issues:

    • About the infobox: need a source for the producers, cinematography, editor, distributor, running-time, country, and languages.
    • Ref 1 said "some film pirates" but not "two", fix that. Ref 9 says "mistake" but ref 10 says "distress", fix this to clarify what word to use. Ref 9 says it was named after his family but not him himself. Fix "nephew of a local Ba'ath Party leader" -> "nephew of said village's chief" since the ref says the local Baath Party leader is the nephew, not the chief. Refs 32 and 33 don't say he was going to Beirut (but rather Jordan), that it was an airport he was detained at, or (directly) that the Al Arabiya broadcast was in Syria, just that it was to Syrian viewers, so change "aired in Syria" -> "was also seen by Syrian viewers"
    • Ref 12 only says he was a tribal chief but not what tribe and is redundant anyway because ref 14 says he was a leader of the tribe and what tribe it was; relocate ref 12 from that sentence to fix the confusion. Ref 19 is literally redundant to 24. The "won the award for best short film" needs only ref 20. Ref 27 is redundant to 25/26 (and I don't speak Arabic anyway, so I'll AGF since video is not something I can easily translate unlike text)
    • I also need clarity on what the working title is: NYT and Reason say Fifteen Reasons Why I Hate the Baath (both caps), but Fifteen Reasons Why I Hate the Baath Party is used by The Douglas Hyde (uncaps) Masress (uncaps) Eclipse of the Sunnis by Deborah Amos (caps) (worst case scenario we use a footnote).

    Now, this is the full list of CLOP issues:

    • "one of the leaders of Busha’ban tribe admits in the documentary: A Flood in Baath Country directed by Omar Amiralay in 2003 that he sent his tribesmen to Aleppo in the 1970s to help President Hafez al-Assad fight against the Muslim Brotherhood" = "Shaykh Diab al-Mashi, a former leader of the Busha'ban tribe, admits that he'd sent his tribesmen to Damascus in the 1970s to assist in President Hafez al-Assad's fight against the Muslim Brotherhood"
    • "As a reward, al-Mashi was granted a permanent seat in the Syrian Parliament. His tribe's villages were also provided with electricity, and many of the men were exempted from compulsory military service" = same as ref 16 "Το reward them for their loyalty, Sheikh Dayyab al-Mashi was granted a permanent seat in Syria's Parliament. Additionally, the villages of his tribe were provided with electricity and many of his tribesmen were exempted from military service (Dukhan, 2019)." I can't access 15 and it's redundant anyway. Also I think it's way too tangential to note in the article.
    • Sort the list of filmmakers protesting the festival's decision in alphabetical order to prevent close paraphrasing.
    • Change "A Flood in Baath Country was pulled from the lineup of the 2004 Carthage Film Festival in Tunisia" to "the 2004 Carthage Film Festival in Tunisia cancelled a screening of the film". "allegation that the film had been pulled to begin with" should be changed to "news that the screening was cancelled" to carry over paraphrase cleanup. "reported" should be added between "Following" and "political pressure" since the ref says it's apparent. Also, there's a conflict between the Jeune Afrique ref which says the news on the cancellation was a "real-fake "scandal" with a persistent rumor ... [that] turned out to be unfounded" and the Variety/Bidoun refs that together say that the screening was cancelled but put back on the program on the last day; need to sort this out per NPOV.
    • "asked the network to include a dedication to a friend" = "asked the network to include in their broadcast a dedication to his friend", so change to "later requested that said network also air a dedication to his friend" (and also since it seems ambiguous if the dedication was directly part of the broadcast)
    • "a Lebanese journalist and critic of the Syrian regime who was killed on June 2 by a bomb hidden in his car" = "a Lebanese journalist who'd been critical of the Ba'athist regime before being killed in 2005 by a bomb hidden in his car" -> "a Lebanese journalist who had been critical of the Ba'athist regime before his assassination in 2005"
    • "Since Bashar al-Assad had permitted satellite television, this meant the movie would be shown in Syria after all" = "and since Bashar al-Assad had recently permitted satellite broadcasts in Syria, the film would be viewable there after all", so -> "allowing the film to be viewable in Syria since satellite television was legalized by Bashar al-Assad's government"
    • "introduced by writer Farouk Mardam Bey and followed by a debate" is lifted straight from the source after being translated into English. Change it to "featuring a debate and an introduction from writer Farouk Mardam Bey" and move it a little earlier between "Baath Country" and "was held in"

    As for overquotes: The "I wanted ... of my life" can stay, but the "thing that ... eleven thousand years before Christ" should be rewritten. I don't think we need that Ba'athist textbook quote in full, just a sentence describing what it says.

    Oh, and this was expanded from 233 B to 9718 B within a few days of being bolded. ミラP@Miraclepine 05:34, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Mwene Muji

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    • ... that Mwene Muji was a polity in the Congo Basin which declined in the late 19th century, and when the Belgians collected traditions in 1926, grand claims of its once imperial status were dismissed?
    • ALT1 ... that Mwene Muji was a polity in the Congo Basin, and when the Belgians collected traditions in 1926, grand claims of its once imperial status were dismissed?
    • ALT2 ... that the grand claims from the ruler of Mwene Muji of them once having imperial status were dismissed by Belgian colonial authorities?
    • Reviewed:
    Created by Kowal2701 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Kowal2701 (talk) 19:48, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    @Kowal2701: I've also checked the article and right now it's less than 1500 characters long. DYK requires a minimum of 1500 characters of prose to be accepted. If you can expand the article further so that it meets the guidelines then less us know, but if that is not feasible then unfortunately the nomination will have to be rejected. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @User:Narutolovehinata5 the hook is 197 words long, and it gives context the fact which is that their grand claims were dismissed. I wouldn't say it summarises the article, just the last few sentences. I can expand it further, I think at the moment it's at 1200 words. Are you sure the hook isn't okay?

    Yes, the hook is far too long for DYK, even if it is slightly under the character limit. Perhaps another editor like Launchballer can give some advice on what makes a good hook, especially one that isn't too long. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:50, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @User:Narutolovehinata5 but surely if it's under the character limit then the length is okay?
    I’ve added alts, I think I know what you were getting at, that the initial hook had too much information in it and wouldn’t entice the reader to click on the article. I think ALT2 is okay? Kowal2701 (talk) 13:18, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, ALT2 would work. Since the original issues about length and hooks are now addressed this is ready for a full review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:42, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Victoria Espinosa

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    Victoria Espinosa
    Victoria Espinosa
    Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 109 past nominations.

    Lajmmoore (talk) 11:35, 20 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: No - I think ALT0 could be rewritten, as currently the focus isn't on the subject. Something like "... that Victoria Espinosa (pictured) directed the first performance of The Public, almost 50 years after it was written?" would be better.
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Happy to pass this after the prose issues in the lead are fixed and ALT0 is rewritten to focus on the subject. Ping me when these are addressed. Grnrchst (talk) 11:18, 25 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • Thanks very much Grnrchst, I've fixed the lead, and another ALT is below:
    ALT3 ... that Victoria Espinosa (pictured) directed the first performance of The Public by Lorca, almost 50 years after it was written? Source: "One of her career highlights was directing the 1978 world premiere of the play “El público” (“The Audience”) by Federico García Lorca, a work that could not be released when it was written around 1930 because it frankly addressed homosexual issues." https://globalvoices.org/2019/07/12/victoria-espinosa-farewell-to-a-tireless-activist-for-puerto-rican-theater/
    Many thanks Lajmmoore (talk) 10:44, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I can't be certain, but I doubt that User:Eorti made the image as claimed. It might be a copyright violation. Bremps... 23:27, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I did a reverse google image search Bremps (which is not infallible), but didn't see a similar one. If there's concern the image doesn't need to be used Lajmmoore (talk) 09:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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    Lou Rash

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    • ... that in his first year in the NFL, Lou Rash was told he was released and began flying back home, but was told upon landing that the release was a mistake and he was to return?
    Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 266 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:49, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Article was nominated seven days after it was promoted to GA so it meets that requirement. No close paraphrasing was found, a QPQ has been done, and the hook is interesting and cited inline. My main concern is that I'm not sure if the article meets WP:DYKCOMPLETE: is there no known information about him after his gridiron football career ended? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:49, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Narutolovehinata5: WP:DYKCOMPLETE says nothing about having to provide details about every part of a person's life. Parts of a football player's life, such as when they are in elementary school or after their career often aren't notable, and thus not reported on. This does not run afoul of WP:DYKCOMPLETE, which provides the following example: For example, an article about a book that fails to summarize the book's contents, but contains only a biography of the author and some critics' views, is likely to be rejected as insufficiently comprehensive. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 20:17, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It probably at least violates the spirit of that rule, or at least the "articles that fail to deal adequately with the topic" aspect. I've seen articles in the past that were held for similar reasons. Or at least, that's how I've seen DYKCOMPLETE be implemented in practice. If no information can be found, that's okay, but usually that has to be confirmed first. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That should work at least. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Added. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:06, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Shouldn't the article mention his children by name? They're both in the source provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:00, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Castlereagh–Canning duel

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    Improved to Good Article status by Michael G. Lind (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Michael G. Lind (talk) 22:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Al LeBoeuf

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    Created by Muboshgu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 537 past nominations.

    – Muboshgu (talk) 16:59, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Hi Muboshgu, review follows: article created 22 October and exceeds minimum length; it is well written and cited to reliable sources; I didn't pick up any problems with overly close paraphrasing from the sources; hook fact is interesting, mentioned in the article (I added "rare" to support the hook, it appears in the source), and checks out to the source cited; a QPQ has been carried out. Thee minor comments:
    • The lead says he was "a coach and manager in the minors from 1989 to 2024" but the article says he joined the Milwaukee Brewers in 2010 and their article says they are a major league team? I don't know anything about baseball so I might be missing something.
    • His birth place and date are stated only in the lead and/or infobox and not cited
    • The article says "LeBouef was diagnosed with multiple myeloma" but the source cited only says "a cancerous spot"
    Once these are addressed should be good to go - Dumelow (talk) 22:30, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Revant Himatsingka

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    • Comment: I think this is quite an interesting feat on the part of the influencer that a viral video was able to get Cadbury to reduce added sugar in Bournvita (marketed as children's health drink in India) by almost 15%, even as they sent legal notices and filed lawsuits against him. Also, I am new to DYK, and not sure if the hook could be made better than this. Thanks!
    Moved to mainspace by CX Zoom (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    —CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 20:22, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Bern Shanks

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    Created by Chetsford (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 152 past nominations.

    Chetsford (talk) 22:53, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Aaron Kennedy

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    Created by B3251 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

    B3251(talk) 21:26, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    @Narutolovehinata5: Done. B3251(talk) 03:12, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    National Gingerbread House Competition

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    2008 competition entries
    2008 competition entries
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    Created by Hkeely (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Hkeely (talk) 15:55, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Thanks Hkeely. The length is now fine, article was created on time (22 October), sources used look to be reliable for the content and I found no issues with overly close paraphrasing, image is good (I trimmed the caption quite a bit). A couple of questions on sourcing:
    • I couldn't see in the Fox Carolina source where it said this was the only time the event had been cancelled?
    • Can you add a citation in the article for the last sentence of the first paragraph about the TV channels it has been broadcast on?
    Apart from that I think this is good to go - Dumelow (talk) 07:32, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks Dumelow. Thank you for checking this and trimming the caption. I've added a citation for the TV channel coverage. The cancelation information is because the contest started in 1992 and this would have been the 32nd annual event. Since there were 31 events prior, that adds up mathematically. I did include new information about the public display portion being canceled during the Covid pandemic in 2020, though judging did continue that year. - Hkeely (talk) 17:47, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi Hkeely, if the first event was held in 1992 and it was held every year then 2024 would have been the 33rd event. There are 32 years between the first and last event but 33 events (see fencepost error) - Dumelow (talk) 08:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Robot Alley

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    Robot Alley and its creator
    Robot Alley and its creator
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    • Comment: Awaiting VRT clarification on the photo, shouldn't post until that's complete.
    Moved to mainspace by Dmartin969 (talk) and Another Believer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    –DMartin 15:16, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Henry Parnell, 5th Baron Congleton

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    War grave of Henry Parnell
    War grave of Henry Parnell
    Created by Moondragon21 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

    Moondragon21 (talk) 12:15, 22 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Bob Hobman

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    • ... that in 1984, Bob Hobman and a group began a journey to sail a wooden outrigger boat from the Philippines to Madagascar to recreate a possible voyage by Neolithic humans?
    • Source: "TAWI TAWI, Philippines -- On a tropical island miles from nowhere, Robert Hobman's dream is taking shape from a century-old tree chopped down in the jungle.

    The British-born adventurer has watched local boatbuilders on the Moslem island of Tawi Tawi carve the hardwood tree into a replica of a ship he believes Southeast Asians used to migrate to Africa hundreds of years before Christ.

    Seeking to unravel the mysteries of the migration, Hobman, four other adventurers and a Filipino navigator plan to set sail later this month on a 4,600-mile voyage from Tawi Tawi through the Indonesian Archipelago and across the Indian Ocean to Madagascar."

    UPI
    Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 151 past nominations.

    Thriley (talk) 18:46, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Jugtown Historic District

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    • ... that a brass band from the New Jersey community of Jugtown was rumored to have drank and fought the police instead of playing at Ulysses S. Grant's funeral?
    • ALT1: ... that an underground tunnel between two houses in what is now Jugtown Historic District was used to hide fugitive slaves? Source: Zink, Clifford (2024). Jugtown/Queenston: Jugtown Historic District. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton Landmark Publications, pp. 6-7
    • ALT2: ... that a pottery's presence in a New Jersey village gave it the name Jugtown? Source: Zink, Clifford (2024). Jugtown/Queenston: Jugtown Historic District. Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton Landmark Publications, p. 4
    • Reviewed: Template:Did_you_know_nominations/The_Bear_season_2
    5x expanded by Lbal (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    Not sure where or how to add the QPQ? I've reviewed another article but not sure if I did it correctly. Lbal (talk) 22:40, 24 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Abortion in Gabon

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    • Source: [16] The draft amendment to the Penal Code extends the right to voluntary termination of pregnancy to some extent, although it remains highly conditional. "It is not yet the right time" to liberalise it, Ms Ossouka Raponda said.
    Moved to mainspace by Vigilantcosmicpenguin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 19 past nominations.

    — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 22:45, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Tiny Glade

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    • ... that Tiny Glade was the fourth most played demo on 2024's Steam Next Fest?
    Moved to mainspace by JuniperChill (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    JuniperChill (talk) 20:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Foreign policy of the Masoud Pezeshkian administration

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    Created by Sportsnut24 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Sportsnut24 (talk) 13:45, 23 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Jing Tsu

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    • ... that Jing Tsu's schoolteachers called her "female tiger" because their punishment had no effect on her?
    Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

    Kimikel (talk) 04:10, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    A Nail Clipper Romance

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    Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 22 past nominations.

    Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 06:17, 24 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    1. ^ 羅偉強 (16 April 2017). "【指甲刀人魔】彭浩翔關智耀專訪 拆解人魔由來". HK01 (in Chinese). Retrieved 24 October 2024. 《指甲刀人魔》雲集兩岸三地演員，而香港代表僅得鄭伊健一人。在戲中作為唯一香港演員，卻不融入一眾內地與台灣演員中一起說普通話，到底為什麼有這樣的安排呢？莫非導演想令《指甲刀人魔》保留多一點香港氣息？原來導演與監製別有心思。「我們想演員以他最熟悉的語言去演繹，會令他以最自然的狀態去完成演出。」關智耀這樣說。而一旁的彭浩翔則從夏威夷的角色出發，他說：「我們在夏威夷所見的，就是很多華人根本就是廣東話與普通話夾雜。他們有一部分人從香港來，亦有部分從內地台灣來。因此我們覺得鄭伊健說廣東話，而其他人說普通話是很夏威夷的一件事。」無論原因是何，作為香港人的大家在戲中聽著伊健講廣東話，都會有多一分親切感吧。 [The film A Nail Clipper Romance features a cast from China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong, with only Ekin Cheng representing Hong Kong. As the sole actor from Hong Kong, he does not speak Mandarin alongside the Chinese and Taiwanese actors. Why is this arrangement in place? Could it be that the director wants to retain a bit of Hong Kong’s essence in A Nail Clipper Romance? It turns out the director and producer have their reasons. "We want the actors to perform in the language they are most comfortable with, as it allows them to present their most natural state", says director Jason Kwan. Meanwhile, Pang Ho-cheung reflects on the Hawaiian context, stating, "What we see in Hawaii is that many Chinese people mix Cantonese and Mandarin. Some come from Hong Kong, while others come from the mainland and Taiwan. Therefore, we felt that having Ekin Cheng speak Cantonese while the others speak Mandarin is very representative of Hawaii". Regardless of the reason, as Hong Kongers, hearing Ekin speak Cantonese in the film adds a sense of familiarity and warmth.]
    2. ^ Ku, Daniel (6 April 2017). "愛情奇幻喜劇《指甲刀人魔》，張孝全、周冬雨夏威夷浪漫談情". Vogue Taiwan (in Chinese). Retrieved 7 October 2024. 到2010年，彭導與網路大電影合作，拍了名為《4夜奇譚》的網路短片系列，其中一夜就是由曾國祥和尹志文執導的《指甲刀人魔》，女主角更是找來周迅。當時影片獲得極高評價，大家都想知道故事的後續發展，因此彭導便有延伸為長篇電影的計畫，只是沒想到計畫一擱就是七年。 [By 2010, director Pang [Ho-cheung] collaborated with an online production company to create a series of web shorts called 4+1 Project, one of which is A Nail Clipper Romance, directed by Derek Tsang and Jimmy Wan, starring Zhou Xun as the female lead. At the time, the film was positively received, and everyone wanted to know what happened next in the story. As a result, Pang decided to expand it into a feature film, although the project ended up being put on hold for seven years.]
    3. ^ "鄭伊健去夏威夷拍戲勁開心 周冬雨讚張孝全性格夠獨特". Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). 9 March 2017. Archived from the original on 12 March 2017. Retrieved 7 October 2024. 由於全片在夏威夷取景，周冬雨因此愛上衝浪，她更透露跟監製彭浩翔一起衝浪有無比的榮耀感，彭浩翔學了七八節課，但她學了兩節就追上了。 [Since the entire film is shot in Hawaii, Zhou Dongyu falls in love with surfing. She also reveals that she was proud to surf with producer Pang Ho-cheung, as Pang took seven or eight lessons, while she only took two lessons before catching up to him.]
    4. ^ 翁新涵 (25 November 2016). "尷尬了╱阮經天緋聞女友 來台喊許瑋甯「奶奶」". Nownews (in Chinese). Retrieved 21 October 2024. 根據周冬雨表示，她主演的新片《指甲刀人魔》，有邀請許瑋甯客串 [According to Zhou Dongyu, in her new film A Nail Clipper Romance, [she] did invite Tiffany Ann Hsu to make a cameo appearance.]
    5. ^ Wong, Silva (16 March 2017). "'Love Off The Cuff' director talks Hong Kong festival opener". Screen Daily. Retrieved 24 October 2024. Despite his busy schedule as a writer/director, Pang takes time out to produce for new filmmakers such as Wan, Luk and Jason Kwan, the DoP on both Love In A Puff and Love In The Buff. The latter's directorial debut A Nail Clipper Romance, starring Zhou Dongyu and Joseph Chang, opens on April 14.

    Soviet atrocities committed against prisoners of war during World War II

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    Created by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 531 past nominations.

    Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:15, 24 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: Yes
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Looks great! Very good work, thank you. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 17:38, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm concerned about fundamental issues with POV and NOR with this article, please see my comment on talk. In terms of the hook, although "murder" is probably an appropriate word when dealing with the (unsanctioned) executions of enemy combatants by Soviet forces, it's not clear whether it's appropriate to describe the high mortality rate caused largely by the dire humanitarian situation in the Soviet Union (which also caused the deaths of many Soviet civilians in this same era). Hooks are expected to be neutral, but this one is one-sided. Multiple sources are cited and it's unclear where the comparison cited in the hook is made, or whether it's a calculation by Wikipedia editors. Overall I would not pass this DYK. (t · c) buidhe 06:34, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I replied on talk there; I don't believe any issues you raise here are relevant for the DYK. The article is not tagged for NPOV issues, nor I can see why it should be, given your rather vague concerns. The basic term murder is indeed uncontroversial and commonly used in sources cited and listed here, which serve to confirm the basic facts mentioned in the hook; and the estimates cited are also uncontroversial; I opted to use broader ranges rather then precise figures for readability. For sources that mention Katyn and German POWs together, there are numerous, including, again, many of the ones cited in the article. Others: [17], [18], etc. TL;DR the topic is obviously notable (take it to AfD if you disagree) and the hook simply summarizes some uncontroversial but prominent and attention-grabbing details. PS. I feel the hook is perfectly neutral; what would make it less "one sided"? The mention that USSR did not kill all of the POWs it held? Are you seriously trying to argue that the murder of Polish officers at Katyn was motivated by "the dire humanitarian situation in the Soviet Union"? (And yes, as the article states, the deaths of some of the German POWs were attributed to that situation - but this detail is too niche and uninteresting for the hook). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    If the sources call it murder, then murder it is. I don’t see a valid controversy here. — Biruitorul Talk 09:12, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think anyone would disagree that some of these deaths (such as the Katyn massacre) can indeed be called "murder". However, I see no evidence or quotes that indicate, as the hook implies, that hundreds of thousands of deaths (particularly those caused more by supply shortages in the Soviet Union than a deliberate, malicious Soviet government policy) can be deemed to be "murder" in wiki voice. Insofar as murders were committed against Axis prisoners of war, the hook misleadingly suggests that the Soviet government ordered them, rather than front line troops deciding to shoot prisoners on their own initiative. In order for this hook to meet DYK's POV rules, we would have to establish that it's a consensus, or at least majority, view. I know there are similar controversies when it comes to the Soviet prisoners of war held by Germany, with some scholars disagreeing that "mass killing" is an appropriate designation, and "mass death" is more accurate. Apparently Piotrus does not like me commenting here, but I wish to maintain the integrity of what we post at DYK by pointing out POV and VER issues that I see on any DYK I come across, regardless of who started it. The google books links above don't help me, please quote exactly where in these sources it says that "hundreds of thousands" of Axis POWs were murdered by the Soviet government. (t · c) buidhe 07:02, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The issue can be fixed easily by removing the mention of Axis soldiers and just mentioning the Polish deaths, which you yourself agree can be described as "murder(ed)" (and which very much were ordered by the Soviet rulers, although the hook is never implied who was responsible in the Soviet hierarchy). See ALT1 below and a slightly longer ALT1a2 mentioning other nationalities, without a number and the term "murder" you dispute; pinging original reviewer so they can comment on it. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    PS. Forgot to @Zanahary:. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 08:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I think ALT1a is best. ꧁Zanahary꧂ 08:37, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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    Murder of Wang Lianying

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    Selection from Awakening from a Dream
    • ... that the murder of Wang Lianying was followed by a blitz of newspaper coverage, books, stage performances, a film, and songs (example pictured)?
    • Source: Everywhere in the article, but probably the best overview is
    He, Qiliang (2018). Newspapers and the Journalistic Public in Republican China: 1917 as a Significant Year for Journalism. New York, London: Routledge. pp. 224–245. ISBN 978-0-429-79669-2.
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 698 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 17:22, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Voltairine de Cleyre

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    Voltairine de Cleyre (age 35)
    Voltairine de Cleyre (age 35)
    Improved to Good Article status by Grnrchst (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 43 past nominations.

    Grnrchst (talk) 11:42, 25 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 26

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    Kim Ju-ae

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    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Xu Xinfu
    • Comment: I chose not to include the name "Kim Ju-ae" in this hook because her name has not been confirmed by either of the two Korean governments, as of the time of this nomination.
    Improved to Good Article status by Yue (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

    Yue🌙 04:17, 27 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Comment I think having the hook be something like "... that the name of the daughter of North Korean Supreme Leader Kim Jong Un has not yet been confirmed by either Korea?" may be fun. Probably needs to be reworded to be less wordy though. seefooddiet (talk) 09:59, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • ALT1: ... that North Korean media has never referred to Kim Jong Un's daughter by name, only as his "respected", "precious" or "beloved" daughter?
    Sources:
    ALT2: ... that the name of Kim Jong Un's daughter has not been confirmed by either of the two Koreas?
    Source: Kang, Hyun-kyung (16 November 2023). "North Korean leader's daughter known by wrong name: expert". The Korea Times. Retrieved 18 October 2024.
    ALT3: ... that the name of Kim Jong Un's daughter is not publicly known?
    Source: Same as ALT2's.
    The descriptors "Supreme Leader", "North Korean leader" or "its leader" could be added by the promoter to any of the hooks if they are successful, but I personally do not think the descriptors are necessary. I am confident that most readers would know who Kim Jong Un is, or at least be able to make the connection with the context of North Korea already there. Having so many extra words just makes the sentence wordy and unnatural. Yue🌙 22:16, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I like ALT3. Punchy and concise. In my orig proposal the reason I mentioned "either Koreas" is because the nature of their confirmation would differ, which is somewhat interesting. It means that North Korea did not announce it and South Korea hasn't figured it out yet. I think it's hard to communicate that though, so maybe just not worth mentioning. seefooddiet (talk) 00:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed. Yue🌙 00:25, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Your Girl

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    • Source: The New Zealand Herald: "A sample from their New Zealand number one single 'A Life With You' features in 'Your Girl' on her new album, The Emancipation of Mimi."
    Improved to Good Article status by Heartfox (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Heartfox (talk) 21:59, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    All-Russian Union of Assyrians "Khoyad-Atur"

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    • Source: Е. Н. Данилова. ДЕЯТЕЛЬНОСТЬ ВСЕРОССИЙСКОГО СОЮЗА АССИРИЙЦЕВ В 20-30-е ГОДЫ XX в. Э О , 2005 г., № 2
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 409 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 12:00, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    The Christmas Invasion

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    • Source: [Pixley, Andrew (9 November 2006). "Series Two Companion". Doctor Who Magazine. No. 14 – Special Edition. Page=13]
    Improved to Good Article status by DoctorWhoFan91 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 06:46, 26 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 27

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    Bob Hainlen

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    Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 267 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:51, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    History of Key West

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    A Key West street car on Greene Street in 1904
    A Key West street car on Greene Street in 1904
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    • Comment: Key West's wrecking, cigar, and salt manufacturing industries allowed it to become one of the wealthiest cities in the United States per capita.
    Created by Bronson Fotiadis1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Bronson Fotiadis1 (talk) 00:03, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: No - Some of the sources used are not reliable (such as Conch Tour Train, WorldPopulationReview, nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com [a non-official site], etc.).
    • Neutral: Yes
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: No - Some close paraphrasing picked up by Earwig is a cause for concern, such as the Federal Wrecking Act paragraph.

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: No - WorldPopulationReview is not a reliable source.
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: No - The link is far, far too long.

    Image eligibility:

    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: The article needs some polishing and some new hooks would be appreciated. SounderBruce 01:20, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm slightly surprised that the Conch Republic doesn't get even a brief mention in the article since that would work great as a hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Diana Edwards-Jones

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    Created by EnthusiastWorld37 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    EnthusiastWorld37 (talk) 20:26, 27 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 28

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    Gilopez Kabayao

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    • Source: "As the first Filipino violinist to perform at the prestigious Carnegie Hall in New York in 1950, Gilopez Kabayao broke new ground and brought pride to the nation." —Philippine Daily Inquirer / Inquirer.net; "He performed in prestigious venues, including Carnegie Hall in New York in 1950, making him the first Filipino violinist to do so." —SunStar
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Anatolii Brezvin
    • Comment: Many sources state that Kabayao's Carnegie Hall performance in 1950 was done when he was 19 years old, but this is impossible if he was born in 1929 so I omitted this from the article and therefore the hook. This error might affect the hook under WP:EXCEPTIONAL and especially since a different source (Manila Bulletin) says, "Kabayao is widely believed to be the first Filipino to play at the prestigious Carnegie Hall in New York City".
    Created by Seav (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    seav (talk) 23:53, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Charles de Gaulle's trip to South America

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    • Source: "L'invitation avait été renouvelée par le maréchal CASTELO BRANCO, mais, au moment du voyage, la situation intérieure brésilienne est tendue. En mors, un différend auquel on a donné lenom de «guerre de la langouste» a opposé la Fronce et le Brésil. L'ambassadeur de France, J. BAEYENS rappelé en consultation à Paris, n'est pas revenu. La France n'a pas répondu à une demande d'agrément en faveur de l'ambassadeur Leitào do CUNHA. Des représailles brésiliennes contre les Alliances Françaises duBrésil sont même un moment envisagées. De GAULLE aurait alors prononcé cette phrase assassine que l'onvous ressert malicieusement ou amèrement sons cesse ou Brésil «Comme le disait votre grand président, le Brésil n'est pas un pays sérieux!», Ces paroles seraient en fait, paraît-il, celles d'un membre del'Ambassade duBrésil en fronce, lancées dons un moment d'exaspération... On ne soit plus. Toujours est-il que les relations franco-brésiliennes s'étaient détériorées. Le Gouverneur de Rio deJaneiro, Carlos LACERDA décide deboycotter l'arrivée dugénéral dons sa ville etc'est le président de la République brésilienne qui doit aller accueillir son hôte à l'arrivée du «Colbert» dons la plus fameuse rode dumonde" Leprun (1994), p. 12
    • Reviewed: [[]]
    • Comment: Found this article while new page patrolling.
    Created by Sintropepe (talk) and Kimdime (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Dan Leonard (talk • contribs) 00:05, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    Hook eligibility:

    QPQ: None required.

    Overall: Can you provide a quotation from the source linking the refusal to the lobster war, so it can be translated and verified? The article makes frequent opinion statements and makes liberal use of opinion adjectives. I think greater attribution in the article of who is stating such opinions is necessary. Also, inline citations are missing from the ends of the following paragraphs:

    • "By 1964, France had essentially completed..."
    • "De Gaulle arrived in Mexico on..."
    • "Francia trata de ayudar..."
    • "He was greeted by President Belaúnde Terry..."
    • "Peruanos, Francia, tierra..."
    • "The following day..."
    • "On 6 October, the President..."
    • "Brazil was not initially on the French..."
    • "In the short term..."
    • "The Colombian government gave various..."

    Ergo Sum 03:42, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    here is a quotation : "Le Gouverneur de Rio de Janeiro, Carlos LACERDA décide de boycotter l'arrivée du général dons sa ville et c'est le président de la République brésilienne qui doit aller accueillir son hôte à l'arrivée du «Colbert»" rough translation : " Rio's Governor, Carlos Lacerda decided to boycott the General's arrival in the city, so instead the President of the Republic had to meet his host when the Colbert arrived" Kimdime (talk) 08:58, 4 November 2024 (UTC) The link to the Lobster war is made on the previous paragraph (p.12 of the same source)Kimdime (talk) 09:32, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Regarding inline (= online I guess ?) citations, well, that's the point, some stuff isn't available online and still has to be found in paper sources, in libraries, I tend to think that this is one of the added values of the work that has been done for this article. If I had relied only on online sources, I would not had been able to write the original article.Kimdime (talk) 09:49, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    No, I meant inline as in WP:INLINE. Every paragraph must end in a citation. Ergo Sum 16:03, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks Ergo Sum, I didn't know about this en:wp jargon. Yet I'm not sure to understand what you mean. Let's take one example : "De Gaulle arrived in Mexico on...". Could you specify what' missing there ? Kimdime (talk) 11:54, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    That paragraph does not have an inline citation at the end of it. As with the others. I suspect you could reuse the inline citation at the end of the following block quotation paragraph, but I have not examined the sources. Ergo Sum 16:55, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Ergo Sum I don't get it, it does have a reference at the end of the paragraph which is : Gruat (2010, pp. 119–132).Kimdime (talk) 11:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There should be one following "has gone down in history" in addition to following "en la mano." Ergo Sum 12:32, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Chromakopia

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    • ... that the physical version of Chromakopia contains an extra song?
  • ... that Tyler's album-related truck could be seen in Tyler?
    • 5x expanded by MontanaMako (talk).
    • Reviewed:
    Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    MontanaMako (talk) 21:50, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    @Narutolovehinata5; just added a new one. Is it any better? MontanaMako (talk) 16:38, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Near-miss effect

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    • ... that gamblers have an inflated confidence when they choose a lottery ticket or throw the roulette ball compared to when another agent does so?
    • Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2658737/
      (However, it is repeatedly observed that gamblers have inflated confidence (indicated by wager size, for example) when given the opportunity to choose their lottery ticket or throw the dice or roulette ball themselves, compared to conditions where the action is performed by another.)
    • ALT1: ... that due to the near-miss effect, gamblers may mistake a game of luck for a game of skill? Source: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC2658737/
      (The presence of personal control may be a core factor in causing the gambler to mistake a game of chance for a game with some skill component, which is effectively controllable.)
    • Reviewed: [[]]
    Moved to mainspace by Anonymous1261 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Who am I? / Talk to me! / What have I done? 13:05, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Zeng Laishun

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    Zeng, c. 1880s
    Zeng, c. 1880s
    • ... that Zeng Laishun (pictured) was the first Chinese person to attend college in the United States?
    • Source: Rhoads, Edward J. M. (2011) Stepping Forth into the World: The Chinese Educational Mission to the United States, 1872–81. Pg. 3
    Moved to mainspace by Generalissima (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 87 past nominations.

    Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 21:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Comment to the reviewer: given that this is a "first" hook, and a pretty exceptional one at that, please be sure to check if the sources adequately support the claim, and see if counterexamples can be found. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: Since Blervis looks like a pretty new reviewer, and this is a hook with higher sourcing standards than usual, should I put this up for second opinion? I think that might be a good idea. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 04:33, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We can have a second opinion from an experienced editor, who at the same time could try teaching Blervis the ropes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sounds like a good idea. Generalissima (talk) (it/she) 05:17, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on October 29

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    Timeless Voyage

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    • ... that the author of the comic book Timeless Voyage was the leader of a UFO religion? Source: Abgrall, Jean-Marie (1999). "Sectes Ufologiques". Les sectes de l'apocalypse: gourous de l'an 2000 (in French). Paris: Calmann-Lévy. p. 95. ISBN 978-2-7021-2954-8. Troisième et dernier mouvement exclusivement ufologique répertorié dans le rapport parlementaire sur les sectes : le groupe Siderella, connu sous les appellations successives de Isozen, Futura, Galacteus, Euro-Culture, Italia, Résonances nouvelles, Azur Mieux-Ëtre, les Voyageurs intemporels et, enfin, Siderella. Fondé et dirigé par Jean-Paul Appel — de son nom de gourou Appel Guery [...]. Appel Guery est aussi l'auteur du scénario de la bande dessinée par Sergio Macedo, Voyage intemporel [...]
    Created by PARAKANYAA (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    PARAKANYAA (talk) 05:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 30

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    Karl Thielscher

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    Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 268 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:55, 6 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Tommy Suggs

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    Created by JJonahJackalope (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 53 past nominations.

    JJonahJackalope (talk) 02:27, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    7th National Eucharistic Congress (United States)

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    Moved to mainspace by Maximilian775 (talk) and Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 21:55, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Charel Allen

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    • ALT2: ... that basketball player Charel Allen was a five-time Bulgarian Cup champion despite only knowing a few words of Bulgarian?
    • Sources: Five-time champ, "a few words", further context on language barrier: "Halftime speeches are usually all in Bulgarian,” Allen said of the language barrier. “Coach (Stefan Mihaylov) trusts me, though. With my knowledge of the game, I know what he's saying and what we need to do. If not, he'll translate for me later and let me know what I needed to do."]
    Created by WikiOriginal-9 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    ~WikiOriginal-9~ (talk) 14:17, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Interstate 59 in Georgia

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    • ... that Interstate 59 only has three exits in the U.S. state of Georgia?
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: Even though the source shows a blank site, simply click the drop-down menu below and select "Interstate 59" from there. It should display the exits the Interstate has.
    Created by NoobThreePointOh (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    NoobThreePointOh (talk) 13:49, 30 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    If that's the case then it might be for the best to let this one go. Unfortunately not all articles are meant for DYK and this could be one of those. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:01, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know if this is a good idea, but in my opinion, I think this review should get the feedback of another reviewer. At least that's based on my thoughts. NoobThreePointOh (talk) 00:31, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: Something you could mention is that only one of the three interchanges is with a state-maintained road. It is somewhat unusual in this part of the country for a majority of an Interstate's exits to be with local roads. Bneu2013 (talk) 05:46, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Also skeptical of that angle. It might not be as understood by readers outside of the United States, or indeed even many within the US, given it would require familiarity with how highways work. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:39, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on October 31

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    Tony Pajaczkowski

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    Improved to Good Article status by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 269 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:53, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Gifted (2022 novella)

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    • ... that in 2022, all five book nominations for the Akutagawa Prize were written by women, including former Japanese adult actress Suzumi Suzuki, who wrote Gifted after her own experiences?
    • Source: (Translated from Japanese to English)

    Suzuki Suzumi, whose book "Gifted" (Bungeishunju) was nominated for the 167th Akutagawa Prize, says that while her unexpected background has attracted attention, it has also led to prejudice and labelling.

    For the first time in history, only female writers have been nominated for the 167th Akutagawa Prize, which will be announced on July 20th. Among them, Suzuki Suzumi, who was nominated for "Gifted," made her AV debut while studying at Keio University. After that, she worked for a newspaper company and graduated from the University of Tokyo, and is now active as a writer and columnist, which has attracted attention for her unusual career.

    Source: Oricon News (https://www.oricon.co.jp/special/59840/)
      • ALT1: ... that former adult film actress Suzumi Suzuki pivoted to writing literature in 2022 with her novel, Gifted, which became one of five books nominated for the Akutagawa Prize that year? Source: Same as first source
      • Reviewed:
    Created by Phibeatrice (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Phibeatrice (talk) 00:51, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • If anything, the fact that the writer of the novel is a former adult film actress is the interesting part here, not the award (which not all readers may recognize, even if it's prestigious). Suggesting a far simpler hook:
    ALT3 ... that the 2022 novel Gifted was written by a former adult film actress?
    Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:51, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT4 ... that former Japanese adult actress Suzumi Suzuki's book Gifted was nominated for the Akutagawa Prize in 2022? Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Mary Mark Ockerbloom: WP:DYKTRIM is the relevant guideline. Oftentimes, but not always, the shortest and simplest hooks are the best. There are times when hooks do need additional context, but generally speaking, we tend to target the widest audience possible with hooks that require the least amount of specialist information. The issue I have with the prize angle is that readers may not know that it is a prestigious award or even be familiar with it, making the angle less accessible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Presumably then, they will have an added incentive to click through and find out. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 15:37, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Details Cannot Body Wants

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    Created by Imbluey2 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Imbluey2. Please ping me so that I get notified of your response 06:29, 2 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Bejeweled (video game)

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    Improved to Good Article status by Lazman321 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 13 past nominations.

    Lazman321 (talk) 22:03, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Backflip (figure skating)

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    French figure skater Surya Bonaly
    French figure skater Surya Bonaly
    Created by Figureskatingfan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 51 past nominations.

    Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 16:47, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Adrenal crisis

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    Forty-nine year-old with an adrenal crisis.
    Forty-nine year-old with an adrenal crisis.
    • ... that the death rate from adrenal crises can amount to 6%? Source: Hahner et al. 2015
      • Reviewed:
    Improved to Good Article status by IntentionallyDense (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    IntentionallyDense (talk) 03:39, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Zhu Baosan

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    Zhu Baosan
    Zhu Baosan
    • ... that the fortune left by Zhu Baosan (pictured) was reported to have been greatly diminished by his philanthropic activities?
    • Source: "The Mourning Ceremonies for Mr. Chu Pao-san". The North-China Herald. 6 November 1926. p. 257. "Although Mr. Chu Pao-san was a successful merchant and had such numerous business interests, friends believe that he left only a small fortune, as his contributions to charity were so large."
    • ALT1: ... that the business interests of Zhu Baosan (pictured) ranged from banking and insurance to shipping and coal mining? Source: "The Mourning Ceremonies for Mr. Chu Pao-san". The North-China Herald. 6 November 1926. p. 257. "He promoted the Commercial’ Bank of China, the Ningpo Commercial Bank, the Chekiang Industrial Bank and the Chung Hua Commercial. and Savings Bank. He was an organizer of the Wah An Fire and Marine Insurance Company, the Wah Sing Insurance Company, and the China United Assurance Society. He was a director of the Liu Kiang and Chang Hsin Mining Companies. He was interested in the Nantao Tramway Company, the Tinghai Electric [Construction “Company” and the Chousan Electric Company. He was a director of the Chousan Steam Navigation Company, the Yung An Steamship Company, the Yung Leo Shipping Company, 'the Chang Ko Navigation Company, the Ta Tah Navigation Company and in several other shipping interests. He was a prominent shareholder in many cotton and flour mills, pap factories and other industrial enterprises."
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Flag of Falcón state (1 of 2)
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 700 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 22:58, 31 October 2024 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on November 1

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    Verificado 2018

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    Created by Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 83 past nominations.

    Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 02:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Museiliha inscription

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    • Source: de Ruggiero 1893, p. 443.
      Louvre Museum, 2024
    • ALT1: ... that the Museiliha inscription, a boundary marker from the first century AD, helped delineate ancient territories between the citizens of Caesarea-ad-Libanum and the Gigartans? Source: Renan 1864, p. 149.
      Mommsen, Hirschfeld & Domaszewski 1873, p. 31, insc. 183.
      Louvre Museum, 2024
    • ALT2: ... that the Museiliha inscription, a boundary marker from the first century AD, is considered a rare ancient example of a documented border dispute? Source: de Ruggiero 1893, p. 443.
      Louvre Museum, 2024
    • ALT3: ... that the Museiliha inscription, a boundary marker from the first century AD, includes carefully erased names, likely of Roman officials? Source: Mancini 1884, pp. 71–72.
      Louvre Museum, 2024
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Abu Sulayman Da'ud
    Created by Elias Ziade (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 38 past nominations.

    el.ziade (talkallam) 10:12, 6 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    1931 Barcelona rent strike

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    Created by Michalis Vazaios (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 257 past nominations.

    Launchballer 13:43, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Article is new enough, long enough and adequately sourced, including the hook. QPQ done. Automated and spot checks find no copyvios or plagiarism. Only issue is that the hook is not that interesting. Maybe
    Sure. Might I also suggest ALT2: ... that the 1931 Barcelona rent strike resulted in 18 deaths, dozens of injuries and arrests, and an agreement on the reduction of rents?--Launchballer 20:00, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Tel al-Sultan attack

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    Improved to Good Article status by Personisinsterest (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Personisinsterest (talk) 12:25, 1 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • I'd like to propose some alternative hooks, if that's okay:

    1. ALT1 = ... that the "Kuwaiti Peace" tent camp, struck by Israeli fighter jets, was located only 200 meters from the largest UNRWA humanitarian aid storage warehouse in the Gaza Strip? Source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hamas-rockets-central-israel-gaza-strip-sirens/

    2. ALT2 = ... that a viral image showing tents in Rafah arranged to spell "All Eyes on Rafah" called for global attention to the humanitarian crisis following the Tel al-Sultan attack? Source: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/29/world/middleeast/all-eyes-on-rafah.html

    3. ALT3 = ... that the Tel al-Sultan attack was the deadliest incident of the Rafah offensive? Source: https://www.axios.com/2024/05/27/rafah-tent-camp-strike-biden-israel-red-line

    Dolichostachys

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    5x expanded by Ethmostigmus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Ethmostigmus 🌿 (talk

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    Naz Arıcı

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    • Source: "İkiz gibi büyüdüğü arkadaşı ölünce kararını verdi! 29 yaşında başladı, 5 kez şampiyon oldu", "29 yaşında sıfırdan başladığı buz pateninde 32 yaşında yetişkinler artistik buz pateni dünya şampiyonu oldu." [23]
    • ALT1: ... that electrical/electronics engineer Naz Arıcı quit her profession at the age of 34 to devote herselt to competitions of adult figure skating she started when she was 29? Source: "... Naz Arıcı,“İlk şampiyonluğumdan sonra 2016 da katılacağım yarışma için işimi bıraktım ..." [24]", "29 yaşında sıfırdan başladığı buz pateninde 32 yaşında yetişkinler artistik buz pateni dünya şampiyonu oldu." [25]
    • ALT2: ... that Naz Arıcı paved the way to the establishment of the adult figure skating branch in Turkey in 2016? Source: " Yetişkinler dalını 2015 yılında dünyada aldığı ilk şampiyonlukla (15 ülkeden 38 kişinin katıldığı Naz’ın ilk yarışması) Türkiye’ye getirdi ve 2016 yılında ülkemize yeni bir dalın açılmasını sağladı." [26]
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Arthur France
    Created by CeeGee (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 223 past nominations.

    CeeGee 11:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Peanut (squirrel)

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    Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 256 past nominations.

    Launchballer 22:08, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    ALT1... that the death of squirrel named Peanut was a Republican rallying cry in the last days before the 2024 United States presidential election? Source: Washington Post Thriley (talk) 20:15, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Eastern Venus

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    Eastern Venus at Kobe
    Eastern Venus at Kobe
    • ... that on the ship Eastern Venus (pictured), the "Modern" suite is not in modern style?
    "The largest cabins onboard Pacific Venus are 4 Royal Suites (65 m2) located behind the bridge, named "Archaic" (1001), "Modern" (1002), "Elegant" (1003), "Noble" (1004). They are decorated in two styles, with "Modern" and "Archaic" in traditional Japanese style, "Noble" and "Elegant" being more contemporary."
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    Created by Memer15151 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    UserMemer (chat) Tribs 21:03, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Puff-puff (onomatopoeia)

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    Improved to Good Article status by Cukie Gherkin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Cukie Gherkin (talk) 04:43, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on November 3

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    Marie Denizard

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    Marie Denizard's publicity image from 1913 French presidential election.
    Marie Denizard's publicity image from 1913 French presidential election.
    • ... that Marie Denizard (pictured) was the first woman to stand as a candidate in a French presidential election even though French women did not achieve suffrage until 1944?
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    Created by MumphingSquirrel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    MumphingSquirrel (talk) 00:23, 12 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    The article is quite long and very well written so I can excuse the fact that it is not quite as fresh as it should be. I am more concerned about the fact that I can find almost nothing about this woman via Google, Google Books, or Google Scholar that was not published after the French Wikipedia's article about her. It seems so unlikely that the first woman to stand as a candidate for president of France should be so little known. I was able to find just enough to ascertain that she did indeed exist, but I am still a bit uneasy. MumphingSquirrel, do you have access to the 1910s sources cited in the article? Surtsicna (talk) 19:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Surtsicna thanks for the prompts. I have now added url links to the 1910 docs which are accessible online. Hope this helps confirm her candidacy - she really has been one of the notable women forgotten by history until recently MumphingSquirrel (talk) 16:57, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Jordan Watkins

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    • Source: Clarion Ledger ("Much has changed for Ole Miss football receiver Jordan Watkins recently. Two weeks ago, he had a different life perspectiv, and he'd never had a multi-touchdown game ... Watkins was a huge part of Ole Miss' offensive explosion. He had eight catches for 254 yards and five touchdowns. ... The five receiving touchdowns are also a record")
    5x expanded by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 270 past nominations.

    BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Radio City Music Hall of the Air

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    Created by 4meter4 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 93 past nominations.

    4meter4 (talk) 23:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Saybrook Colony

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    • ... that the Saybrook Colony was sold to Connecticut for annual payment of 130 pounds of one-third wheat, one-third peas, and one-third rye or barley?
    Improved to Good Article status by Gazingo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Gazingo (talk) 16:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Moe's Books

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    • ... that in 2016, two thieves stole a van filled with $350,000 worth of rare books in Oakland, California, and tried to sell first editions of William Faulkner and Cormac McCarthy to Moe's Books nearby?
    • Source: He’s been in the book dealing business for more than 15 years, but Lawrence Van De Carr said he’d never come across such a jewel of a title: a mint copy of Isaac Asimov’s 1950 classic “I, Robot” valued at $8,500.

    That novel, once a prized possession of Van De Carr’s, is now gone, along with around 400 of his other books worth well over $350,000. Someone stole his van while it was parked outside a friend’s Oakland home this week.

    Joshua Anderson, 30, went to Moe’s Books in Berkeley shortly after the bookseller’ association sent out an alert. He and an alleged accomplice had four books, valued around $14,000, that they were trying to sell, said John Wong, manager at the store.

    Among the classic first-editions they were trying to deal were “A Hornbook for Witches: Poems of Fantasy” by Leah Bodine Drake, one of only 563 known copies; “No Country for Old Men” by McCarthy, “Always Comes Evening” by Robert E. Howard, and “Pylon” by William Faulkner.

    Source: SFGate (https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Van-filled-with-350-000-rare-books-stolen-in-6843521.php)
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    Converted from a redirect by Phibeatrice (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Phibeatrice (talk) 23:41, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Cathedral Cemetery

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    • Source: It was founded in 1849 by the Archdiocese of Philadelphia and is the first catholic cemetery founded in Philadelphia. (guidetophilly.com)
    Created by Dwkaminski (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 21 past nominations.

    Dwkaminski (talk) 19:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Ethanoligenens harbinense

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    5x expanded by Hmsuth4770 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Hmsuth4770 (talk) 17:52, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Technically, it's not far off, but either way it's a few hundred off 1,500 characters and very stubby. I say give @Hmsuth4770: a chance.--Launchballer 22:41, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Ian (Wiki Ed), this actually almost a 5x expansion: 235 prose characters prior to the recent edits, and 1102 at present (5x would be 1175). However, it fails to meet the 1500 prose character minimum required of every article nominated for DYK. When nominators come up short—mainly because they're not counting prose characters, which DYK check can count for you—we typically allow them to expand the nominated article, if they can do so in a timely manner. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:49, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    2023 European Athletics Indoor Championships – Women's 400 metres

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    Femke Bol wins the 400 m
    Femke Bol wins the 400 m
    • Source: "1 49.26 Femke BOL 23 FEB 2000 NED 1 Omnisport, Apeldoorn (NED) (i) 19 FEB 2023 1269" / "3 49.85 Femke BOL 23 FEB 2000 NED 1 Ataköy Arena, Istanbul (TUR) (i) 04 MAR 2023 1245" / "4 49.96 Femke BOL 23 FEB 2000 NED 1f3 L'Anneau-Halle d'athlétisme de Metz, Metz (FRA) (i) 11 FEB 2023 1240" (link)
    5x expanded by Editør (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

    Editør (talk) 11:14, 3 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on November 4

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    Clifton House School

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    Created by Storye book (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 110 past nominations.

    Storye book (talk) 11:54, 9 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • I'm not yet sure if I will give this a full review, so I'll just leave this as a comment for now. Although the angle provided meets DYKINT, I have reservations if it meets the guidelines. For one, both hooks may need a trimming (it might be better to focus on the "two attackers were knocked out" angle alone without mentioning the gymnast or music hall clauses). More importantly, I'm not sure if the hooks as currently written meet WP:DYKHOOKSTYLE, specifically the part about avoiding writing hooks where the bolded article is only tangentially related to the main hook fact (the hooks seem to be more about Styan than the school itself). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 07:26, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • ALT0 is 155 characters. According to the link you provided about trimming, it is ideal length.
    • ALT1 is 180 characters. Being 180 characters is not a trimming issue by itself.
    • Styan was a big part of that school, as can be seen in the article. There is plenty of material about him in the article, because he was a big presence there. If our readers click on the bold link, they will read more about Styan there than anywhere else online. Therefore he is relevant to the hook.
    • Meanwhile I'll go and find an extra hook or two, anyway. Storye book (talk) 10:04, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • ALT2: ... Clifton House School formed a scout pack which received an award from Lord Baden Powell for "best pack the United Kingdom"? Source: Neesam, Malcolm (26 February 1999). "Lord Baden Powell on the Stray". Harrogate Advertiser and Weekly List of the Visitors. p. 7 col.4. Retrieved 30 October 2024 – via British Newspaper Archive. "Lord Baden Powell was in Harrogate for the special purpose of presenting Peter's Pole to the Clifton House School Pack, which had won the award of best pack in the United Kingdom, an exceptional commendation".
    • ALT0a: ... that sports teacher Harold Styan of Clifton House School played the music halls when young, and knocked out two attackers in his old age? Source as above
    • ALT0b: ... that Clifton House School's sports teacher Harold Styan played the music halls when young, and knocked out two attackers in his old age? Source as above Storye book (talk) 11:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    One issue is that, while not an official rule or guidelines, it is usually discouraged to mention people without articles by name in hooks. I'm not sure how strict that practice is, but it's been brought up many times in the past. In any case, it might be necessary to remove Styan's name from the hooks. As for the trimming part, the wording I had was something like "... that a Clifton House School sports teacher knocked out two attackers in his old age?", which is more straightforward. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:19, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't think your suggestion is appropriate, because this was an expensive private school, and Styan had the Order of the British Empire for his youth work. In other words, he was a hero and teacher, not a gangster. The hooks that I gave suggest that he was a complicated and interesting character, but your hook suggests that he might be just some kind of felon or that he ultimately developed dementia. If there is no specific rule against using his name, then I don't see why we should remove it. However I shall look at that section of the article and see whether there is enough there to make Styan into a separate article, then the hooks will have his name in lights, and this nom will be a double nom. Storye book (talk) 16:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Update. I am separating the two articles, but it will take a day or two. Thank you for your patience. Please note that the Harold Styan link is currently a redirect to Clifton House School. I shall correct that when I publish his article. Storye book (talk) 18:03, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    It's not a rule that's formally codified and thus not in the guidelines, but I remember it being discouraged before. I think Theleekycauldron might know about it. In any case, if the hook becomes a double nom then that particular issue becomes moot. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    see WP:DYKG#C1 theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 23:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    James Michael Reardon

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    Msgr. Reardon speaking in the Basilica of Saint Mary
    Msgr. Reardon speaking in the Basilica of Saint Mary
    Created by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 02:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Palaeotherium

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    Palaeotherium medium skull, first described in 1782.
    Palaeotherium medium skull, first described in 1782.
    • ... that a skull of the distant horse relative Palaeotherium (pictured) was first described as belonging to an amphibian then later to a canine?
    • Source: Chapter 10: From Quarry to Paper. Cuvier's Three Epistemological Cultures; Sur les ossemens qui se trouvent dans le gypse de Montmartre"
    Improved to Good Article status by PrimalMustelid (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

    PrimalMustelid (talk) 23:58, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Pro-Fatimid conspiracy against Saladin

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    • Source: summary of the entire article
    Improved to Good Article status by Cplakidas (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 145 past nominations.

    Constantine ✍ 19:27, 4 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on November 5

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    Revelation of the Magi

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    • Source: Landau, Brent (2017). "Under the Influence (of the Magi): Did Hallucinogens Play a Role in the Inspired Composition of the Pseudepigraphic Revelation for the Magi?". In Fakes, Forgeries, and Fictions, a monograph collection. It's not online... but you can read chapter titles at https://www.tonyburke.ca/fakes-forgeries-and-fictions/ ... and I think just the title of this work is sufficient!

    I prefer the original or ALT1. Providing ALT2 mostly in case people really, really don't want to include the drug use. (I don't think ALT2 fails the DYKFICTION as fiction & mythology are two different things IMO and describing mythology / religion is okay, but mentioning that issue here if you want to be a stickler about real-world stuff.)

    Converted from a redirect by SnowFire (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

    SnowFire (talk) 21:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Oasis (Minecraft clone)

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    Created by Johnson524 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Loytra (talk) 13:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Comment The disambiguation is incorrect - if this is considered a video game, then per WP:NCVGDAB it should be (2024 video game) instead (since there is already a 2005 video game of the same name). That said, I am not sure I would consider it a video game, given that it does not work according to anything but dream logic, and is more of a vague approximation of a game. Therefore, (simulation) or (AI simulation) could be a better disambiguation. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 11:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • If it's not clear exactly what Oasis is, then why would the disambiguation be considered incorrect? The software is most notable for being a clone of Minecraft, surely that should be mentioned in the title for clarity sake? Hell, half the time it's referred to as "AI Minecraft" rather than its actual name. Loytra (talk) 01:43, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • It is incorrect because "Minecraft clone" is overly specific and therefore goes against disambiguation guidelines. It is like using (black dog with long fur and floppy ears) instead of (dog). It must be made more broad, whether by calling it "video game" or "simulation". Furthermore, calling it a "clone" may in fact be incorrect. It is literally Minecraft, as played by interpreting the game through an AI, whereas "clone" is typically used to describe games that are similar to, but not identical to another. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 06:42, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • Most of the sources referenced in the article describe it as a "version of Minecraft" or simply "AI-generated Minecraft". It really isn't commonly referred to as "Oasis"; I don't think most people would recognise the software if it was under the title "Oasis (2024 video game)" or "Oasis (simulation)". Imo it has to have "Minecraft" in the title. I know naming conventions are pretty strict but I'd almost argue that this is an WP:IAR situation. Loytra (talk) 11:54, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            • I can confidently say it's not an IAR situation. After looking at the sources more, I am convinced that (AI model) is the best DAB for this as it is first and foremost a model that can be "played" using a game interface. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 18:43, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment. I don't think arguing over the title should block this from DYK. Only truly egregiously wrong titles would cause that kind of problem, and the current title is clearly not that bad - as noted, the COMMONNAME is something like "AI Minecraft". (And I don't think the case is as open-and-shut as Zxc thinks it is, either.) Zxc, you should file a WP:RM and see what the community thinks IMO. SnowFire (talk) 19:21, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • I agree. Its now time to keep discussion in this template related to DYK reviews and any discussion about the name of this article, should take place via an RM and any discussion about improving this article should take place at the relevant talk page. Article titles are outside the scope of a DYK review. side note: sounds like I'm a forum moderator at this point JuniperChill (talk) 16:19, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Canticle V: The Death of Saint Narcissus

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    Britten in 1968
    Britten in 1968
    Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2123 past nominations.

    Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: No - n
    • Other problems: No - Too complicated.
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: The article itself is very fine. It is long enough and new enough; Earwig detects no problems. The chosen ALT, however, would not be attractive to people unfamiliar with classical music. Looking at the second paragraph in "Background" I find two pieces of information which could provide better hooks: 1.) Britten composed the Canticle V in the wake of his heart surgery and 2.) he revised its instrumentation because his declining health left him unable to play its piano accompaniment as he originally intended. I'm sure there's more material in the article that could be used for alternative hooks. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 02:24, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Can you please word that for me? I have a hard time thinking about something I don't like, such as a hook about his health problems. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:02, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @CurryTime7-24: Perhaps:
    ALT1 ... that Benjamin Britten (pictured) composed Canticle V: The Death of Saint Narcissus after recovering from heart surgery? (This might require revisions to the article, as it is not mentioned when the piece was composed or when the surgery took place).
    ALT2 ... that Benjamin Britten (pictured) composed Canticle V: The Death of Saint Narcissus for tenor and harp as he was unable to play the piano following heart surgery?
    Another possible alternate could be the connection to Narcissus from Greek mythology, but that might be slightly more specialist than the heart surgery angle hooks so I'll only suggest such wordings if you think that would be better. I agree that the original hook is too long and complicated to meet either DYKINT or DYKTRIM. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for your help! ALT2 would be best here, but it needs a further tweak. It ought to make clear to the reader that Britten had originally conceived the accompaniment for piano and that he intended to play it himself, but that failing health precluded this option. Therefore he rescored it for harp instead. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I fail to understand why you want to focus on his health problems, instead of mentioning that he wrote the music with friends in mind, tenor Peter Pears who was his partner at a time when that was a problem, harpist Ellis for whom he had written many parts, and in memory of his libretto-writing friend. - I have no source for times of surgery and composition, just a serious source saying that he couldn't play the piano because of it ("not well enough"), and a less serious source saying that his right hand was partly paralyzed. I haven't heard that he had to rescore, - just that in the four previous canticles, written over decades, there was piano, and he had played it in the premieres, accompanying his partner. - I'll leave for vacation in two days, with unpredictable access to the internet (I won't take my laptop). Perhaps I just let you do it and unwatch what was intended as a memorial of lasting friendship. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:39, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ps: I believe that the title of this piece alone is already interesting, raising curiosity. As it's not obvious from that title that is is a composition for tenor and harp, I believe this information should be presented in some form, which ALT0 and ALT2 have but not ALT1. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    pps: Template:Did you know nominations/Canticle IV: The Journey of the Magi (6 January 2022), Template:Did you know nominations/Canticle II: Abraham and Isaac (22 November 2022), Template:Did you know nominations/Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his (22 November 2023). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @CurryTime7-24: I was going by what was written in the article, so ALT2 reflects the current article wording. Your suggestion would need to be reflected in the article. Still, maybe:
    ALT3 ... that Benjamin Britten (pictured) intended Canticle V: The Death of Saint Narcissus to be scored for piano, but scored it for harp instead due to health reasons?
    @Gerda Arendt: Perhaps CurryTime, or another editor like 4meter4 or Theleekycauldron may be able to explain it better than I can, but this is not about wanting to highlight his health issues. In fact, I would rather not if there were alternatives and it wasn't the most interesting or eyecatchy part of the article. It's not about focusing on his health problems: it's about highlight a hook fact that is likely to catch the attention of readers and entice them to click on the article and learn more about the Canticle. By contrast, a hook mentioning the writer and the tenor is unlikely to have the same effect. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:21, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    You will have read in the article that all five canticles were written with the tenor voice of Peter Pears in mind. Compare last year's. Not to mention at least the word "tenor", better his name, seems against the composer's sentiments for his beloved. - The article title alone is catchy, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:42, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There's lots I could say about ALT0, but (a) I was pinged and (b) I don't have much to say outside of what I already said at the RfC where we decided we didn't want hooks like ALT0. I will say that Canticles I, II, and IV, which Gerda linked above as examples of her successful hooks, were all in the bottom 10% of hooks by viewcount in their respective months. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 22:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I didn't link to "successful" hooks, but to hooks in a series, begun in 2013, the composer's centenary. I am happy to take low viewcounts, it spares others to be blamed. Template:Did you know nominations/A Hymn of St Columba (2019), Template:Did you know nominations/Te Deum in C (2013).
    I would like to mention the poet, because Britten liked his writing, + the youthful work was printed late.
    I would like to mention the dedicatee because he wrote many librettos for Britten. However, trying to please:
    ALT0a: ... that Benjamin Britten (pictured) composed Canticle V: The Death of Saint Narcissus to be performed by his friends, tenor Peter Pears and harpist Osian Ellis. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:07, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Respectfully, if you are trying to please, then please drop the Pears/Ellis angle, as it simply is not going to happen. If you want to avoid long DYK discussions and have brief ones, either propose hooks that will catch the attention of most readers as opposed to just yourself, or agree to such hooks proposed by others. Again, please drop ALT0's angle as no matter how it is worded, no such hook is going to be approved here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Two things. One, not even most Christians know who Saint Narcissus is, so I don't think most readers will find the title alone catchy. Second, consensus can change. What may be acceptable angles or focuses for hooks in the past will not always be so. Just because it was accepted before to use angles related to Pears does not mean necessarily mean that such proposals will be accepted now. Indeed, consensus develops from previous experience. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:49, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    1) You will have read in the article that the character is none of two Christian Saints, but rather Greek mythology in disguise. What I meant is more that "Death of" (whoever) may raise curiosity. It seems to be the title of that poem. 2) Re-reading the former reviews, I enjoyed their brevity. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:15, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I was talking more about the title of the song, not the article. You were asking if the article title alone is catchy, and the article title mentions Saint Narcissus, so I was commenting based on that fact, not about the article. Death alone will probably not raise interest without additional context. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:46, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I think I understood that, and we see again that we find different things interesting. And so may readers. I find this title enigmatic and would like to find out more. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:25, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    ALT3 is better; we're almost there. It only needs to mention that he intended to play it himself and the specific reasons that prevented the scoring for piano. "Health reasons" borders on MOS:EUPHEMISM. A reader may well wonder whether his hands simply cramped up, he had a flu, or some such. @Gerda Arendt: I'm not "focusing" on health problems. My only concern is to bring wider attention to your wonderful article and to meet the guidelines set forth in WP:DYKINT: "The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest". That Britten's declining health forced him to alter the scoring for an accompaniment he had originally intended to play himself is "unusual" and "intriguing". Your preferred hooks are neither unusual nor interesting, even to somebody like myself whose passion for classical music verges on the obsessive. :) Beethoven, Schubert, Brahms, Schoenberg, Stravinsky, Eisler, Revueltas, Shostakovich, Salgado, Schnittke, et al are just a few of the composers who wrote music for musician friends. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 08:11, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    ALT3 misses "tenor" at all, and thus the key information about how this piece sounds. Please find a way to add those five characters, or people will think he changed a piano solo to a harp solo. - We are not there regarding my intended homage of the partnership of Britten and Pears, but I have no time. Off for two weeks. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Trying:
    ALT0b: ... that after four Canticles with tenor and piano, Benjamin Britten (pictured) composed Canticle V: The Death of Saint Narcissus for tenor and harp?
    You can fill that with more information, such as poem/heart surgery/unable to play piano/ a year before his own death. You could also leave it open, to make curious. Do we even know why? He could still have written for piano, for someone else to play. My OR: the combination of tenor and harp had worked well in Death in Venice, - all canticles were related to some opera. By the same players who were his friends. I find especially touching that Ellis still played in a much later recording. - Off to packing, finally. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:27, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @CurryTime7-24: The issue I see right now with the article is that the specific information about the scoring for harp instead of piano is not in the article, so that will need to be addressed anyway regardless of the ultimate wording. As for revising ALT3, would replacing "due to health reasons" with "as he was recovering from heart surgery" work? It would make the hook longer though, which was my main concern. I do not see "health reasons" as a euphemism as it's still accurate. This isn't like using "passed away" instead of "died". In any case, I'm really not sure how to get your point across without making the hook too long or complicated that would get the attention of the trimming police.
    As for the above concern about the details not being included in the hook, again, WP:DYKTRIM is relevant. We do not need to cram information into the hook, catching readers' attention is the main objective. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:10, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't understand. The fact was in the article. I duplicated the refs from a sentence later, perhaps that helps finding it. My hook would by ALT1b, without more details. I said 'you' can fill it with what you find so interesting. Sorry, some days I think I don't speak English. Off to Portuguese. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I'm referring to the suggestion of including the five characters, him being a tenor, or other extra details that do not add to the main point of the hook (that he intended to arrange for piano but could not due to his heart surgery). Again, DYKTRIM: avoid including extra details whenever possible, especially if they distract from the hook fact and are not directly relevant. As for the new wording, ALT0b is essentially a non-starter and is even less likely to attract readers. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:29, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: I'll be adding new sources confirming the reasons for the scoring shortly. @Gerda Arendt: Struck through ALT0b. I encourage and would appreciate it if you could devise brand new hooks, but anything based on ALT0 is not going to meet the threshold of "unusual" and "intriguing". —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:14, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: OK, new sources confirming information that could be used in a modified ALT3 has been added. The material I added to the article could also be the basis of an entirely new ALT as well. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 21:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The article still doesn't directly say that his stroke and its effects resulted directly in the switch from piano to harp, so either the hook or the article still need to be fixed. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 23:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Please give me a couple hours to get back home and retrieve my sources. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 23:21, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: Alright, take a look at the new citation with quote and let me know what you think! :) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 04:58, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Cool. Can you try proposing a new wording? Though with your contributions to the article, a new reviewer might be needed here. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:10, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Sure. Give me a couple more hours to log into my desktop computer and I'll go ahead and add two more ALTs. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:40, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    I won't, but added the fact that Britten played the piano in the first 4 premieres. Generally, there are Musical compositions with titles that show who performs, in a cello sonata cello and piano, in an oboe concerto oboe and orchestra, but in cases of titles like this, it seems fair to simply add "for tenor und harp", to give readers an idea. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:38, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    @Narutolovehinata5: What do you think of these?

    Either ALT4 or ALT5 works. Could be left to the reviewer. Not too fond of ALT6 since, from experience, review quote hooks tend to underperform. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed about ALT6. Just in case, here's a modified version. If you think it works, great. If not, I tried! :)
    ALT6a: ... that the Canticle V: The Death of Saint Narcissus by Benjamin Britten was said to illustrate not only the "new physical limitations" that he faced after his stroke, but "also the workings of his innovative imagination"? (Source: Ibid) —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:22, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The harp's part is described in the article as not an accompaniment. Also accompaniment of what? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:44, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The Hutcheons describe it as such in their book [italics mine for clarity]: "[Britten] would never again write for the piano: the vocal works written after the surgery were either unaccompanied or accompanied by harp, harpsichord, or small orchestra. (p. 82)" —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 18:55, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT6a is above 200 characters so it's probably best to just drop the idea. We'll need a new, unpinged and uninvolved reviewer to check ALT4 and ALT5. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 04:55, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    in the face of death - a dear friend died today, I suddenly like ALT4 --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:51, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Miles Rock

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    Page 979, "he graduated as Civil Engineer with the first class of Lehigh in 1869". Page 979, "he served as Chief of the Guatemala Boundary Commission, charged

    with the duty of determining and locating the disputed frontier between Guatemala and Mexico"

      • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Peel's Cut
      • Comment: Just created the article, fascinating individual, will try to get a photo uploaded... Also, I did a QPQ because I have a bunch of DYK's from a few years ago
    Created by Dmadeo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    dm (talk) 23:44, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Abortion in Kyrgyzstan

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    -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 15:41, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • @PhoenixCaelestis: The article looks good. No copyvios. QPQ not needed. Hook is interesting. I would add a link to haram. In the sources I was unable to find the part that said that it is haram, and that women refuse to do it for this reason. I see that part about that woman in Osh, but the source doesn't say the "haram" bit. Could you provide one that does say "haram" please? ―Panamitsu (talk) 05:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Panamitsu: I've added a link to haram, and here's a source for the part on whether or not abortion is haram. It is from the Australian National Imams Council, an organization of mosque leaders.

    https://www.anic.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/THE-ISLAMIC-POSITION-ON-ABORTION.pdf

    ―PhoenixCaelestis (talk) 07:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • @PhoenixCaelestis: Thank you for working on this article. The source you suggest states the formal position as haram, but I do not see information in the article or the source you added to support the statement "that women refuse to do it for this reason". You need statistics if you want to support this claim. The only case mentioned is one woman doctor who says that she is now afraid to counsel people about abortion. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:18, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Mary Mark Ockerbloom: I've added two more sources to the article to back the claim, and I will provide them here as well.

    https://www.un.org/womenwatch/daw/Review/responses/KYRGYZSTAN-English.pdf https://europe.ippf.org/blogs/kyrgyzstans-cocktail-conservatism-and-apathy-bitter-draught-women

    -Emily (PhoenixCaelestis) (talk) 13:05, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    • @PhoenixCaelestis: The new sources generally talk about culture and issues in medical care for women, but I don't see that either one clearly presents either a claim or evidence that many women refuse to go through with abortion because it is considered haram. One source even comments (without data?) that women may be more likely to get abortions because contraception is costly. The sources are also not very current. I'm not trying to be difficult here, but I think you'll need to either rephrase the hook or find more explicit sources that clearly support what you state. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 17:02, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    The hook is very unlikely to be true. In addition to what Mary Mark Ockerbloom wrote, I should also note that the claim that abortion is haram is in itself either misleading or outright incorrect, as explained by Islam and abortion. Each of the four Sunni schools considers abortion permitted but under different circumstances, and the dominant school in Kyrgyzstan is the one that is most permitting regarding abortion. Surtsicna (talk) 23:12, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Hikari Kodama

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    • ... that because she went to a high school with strict rules, Hikari Kodama would wear wigs while making public performances? Source: [34] ("はい。中学3年生の冬に初めてオーディションを受けて、そこから3年ほど事務所に所属しました。でも、校則が厳しい高校に通っていたので、表立った芸能活動ができなかったんですよ。なので、その頃はカツラを被ったりしながらライブをしてました（笑）。先生たちに気付かれないように。")
    Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 111 past nominations.

    Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:19, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Miss Shampoo

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    Created by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 23 past nominations.

    Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 06:36, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    1. ^ 祁玲 (25 July 2023). "【洗頭妹之戀3】宋芸樺狂洗60顆頭還要當保母 春風髮型百變任他玩". Mirror Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 3 November 2024. 宋芸樺為了阿芬這個角色瘦身5公斤，符合劇中展現小蠻腰的洗頭妹造型，還花了不少時間學習剪髮和洗頭。她在2個月內找了5間髮廊，先跟2家傳統家庭理髮的阿姨學洗頭，再去3家較為現代的髮廊學按摩，同時多方了解髮型助理的生活。 [Vivian Sung lost 5 kilograms for her role as Fen to achieve the small waist look of the hairstylist in the film, and she also spent considerable time learning how to hairstyling and hairwashing. Within two months, she visited five salons, first learning how to wash hair from a couple of traditional family hairdressers, and then going to three more modern salons to learn about massage, while gaining insights into the life of a hairstylist.]
    2. ^ 羅子欣 (18 July 2023). "柯震東被狗撞傷「春風天天打電話」 場景太逼真竟騙到居民". TVBS News (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 19 August 2024. Retrieved 19 August 2024. 劇組特別在西門町重現片中重要場景「美滿理髮廳」，不僅是男女主角春風、宋芸樺第一次見面的地方，也是彼此逐漸產生情愫的定情之地，其實美滿理髮廳全是劇組設計、裝潢而成的，甚至在拍片時，還有當地居民誤以為是真的，走進來說要剪髮 [The production crew specifically recreated the main set "Mei-mun Hair Salon" in Ximending, which is not only the place where the male and female leads, Daniel Hong and Vivian Sung, first meet but also becomes the location where their feelings for each other gradually develop. In fact, the Mei-mun Hair Salon was entirely designed and built by the crew, and during filming, some local residents mistakenly thought it was a real shop and walked in asking for haircuts.]
    3. ^ 祁玲 (25 July 2023). "【洗頭妹之戀4】劇組擬以它為藍本打造理髮廳 遭九把刀否決有原因". Mirror Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 3 November 2024. 鄭昀從劇本階段就跟著九把刀，在前製期處理許多相關事宜，例如因應劇情需要尋找棒球隊合作拍攝，卻因台詞問題屢次遭拒，最後花很多時間才找到願意參與的球隊。 [Cheng Yun followed Giddens Ko from the scriptwriting phase and handled many pre-production issues, such as seeking baseball teams for collaboration based on the storyline. However, due to concerns about the dialogue, they were repeatedly rejected, and it ultimately took a lot of time to find a team willing to participate.]
    4. ^ 蕭采薇 (5 July 2023). "樂天神秘球員鄭旭翔是誰！長超像禾浩辰？ 原來跟九把刀新片有關". ETtoday (in Chinese). Retrieved 4 November 2024. 職棒「樂天桃猿」近來在社群上公告將有球員赴日挑戰，包括「全壘打王」廖健富、「最強中繼投手」賴鴻誠、「經典賽戰將」成晉都相繼給予祝福。而該球員公開為「鄭旭翔」，陌生的名字讓球迷一頭霧水，原來是九把刀最新作品《請問，還有哪裡需要加強？》裡的角色，由有健美體魄的禾浩辰飾演。 [The baseball team Rakuten Monkeys recently announced on social media that several players will head to Japan for challenges, including the "Home run king" Liao Chien-fu, "Top relief pitcher" Lai Hung-cheng, and "Classic tournament warrior" Cheng Chin, all of whom expressed their blessings. The player in question is "Cheng Hsu-hsiang", an unfamiliar name that left fans confused; it turns out he is a character from Giddens Ko's latest work Miss Shampoo, played by the muscular Bruce Hung.]
    5. ^ 祁玲 (25 July 2023). "【洗頭妹之戀2】黃立成反悔大哥換人當 春風有喜感拚演技大躍進". Mirror Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 3 November 2024. 對此九把刀說：「當時麻吉大哥（黃立成）自己要當主角，就變得超級沒有成本概念，什麼都可以。」後來團隊建議黃立成上表演課，他上完課就反悔不演了，並力薦由春風取代，如此確定男主角人選。 / 過程中發生一件插曲，初期雖已定案，黃立成仍一直打電話給九把刀，叫他不要拍《請問》，改拍另一部多年前籌備卻因故停拍的《功夫》，但九把刀那時只想拍洗頭妹的故事。九把刀說：「麻吉大哥就像小朋友一樣嚷著要拍《功夫》，最後我們決定要拍這個故事時，他就以祝福的心情看著，加上我有用他很喜歡的春風，他的內心應該是peace（平靜）的。」 [In response, Giddens Ko said, "At that time, my buddy (Jeffrey Huang) wanted to be the main character, so we became completely cost-blind and thought anything was possible.' Later, the crew suggested that Huang take acting classes, but after completing them, he changed his mind and decided not to act, recommending Daniel Hong as a replacement, thus confirming the male lead. / During the process, there was an incident where, although the decision had already been made, Jeffrey Huang kept calling Giddens Ko, urging him not to make Miss Shampoo and instead to film another project, Kung Fu, which had been in preparation for years but was halted for various reasons. However, Giddens Ko only wanted to tell the story of the hairstylist. Giddens Ko remarked, 'My buddy was like a child insisting on making Kung Fu, but when we decided to make this story, he looked on with a blessing heart. Plus, I had him cast Daniel Hong, who he really liked, in a role, so he should have felt at peace inside.]

    Gohobi

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    Created by Narutolovehinata5 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 109 past nominations.

    Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:26, 5 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • @Narutolovehinata5:, Thanks for the article. This is a suggestion: could you expand the article slightly to give some idea of what it means to have a "tofu mentality"? For those of us who won't be able to read the original sources if we click through, the current Wikipedia article gives no explanation of the hook. Mary Mark Ockerbloom (talk) 20:26, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    For what it's worth, the sources regarding the band only use "tofu mentality" without further elaboration (other than it was a term they gave to themselves), so I can't really add more to the article without doing original research. Technically, in Japanese, the term "tofu mentality" means something similar to what English speakers would call a "snowflake", although the article uses a literal translation of "豆腐メンタル" rather than the translated version (which is probably still accurate since the literal meaning is correct in Japanese). The full explanation about what the term means would probably not work for the band's article since it would delve into original research or even WP:COAT, but that's the explanation for context. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:06, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]


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    Perplexities after Escher

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    Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2125 past nominations.

    Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Will leave this to another reviewer, but a shortened version of ALT1 would probably be a good option:
    ALT2 ... that Perplexities after Escher, a composition for the heckelphone, was composed to commemorate the instrument's 120th anniversary?
    ALT2a ... that Perplexities after Escher, a composition for the heckelphone, was composed for the instrument's 120th anniversary?
    ALT2b ... that Perplexities after Escher, a composition for the heckelphone, was composed as part of the instrument's 120th anniversary celebrations?
    Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:48, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    After giving this some thoughts, I've struck the original hook and ALT1. The original hook is unlikely to be perceived as interesting to those who are not specialists in classical music or art, and the second hook's wording is a bit weird and its point is probably better expressed by the ALT2 variations. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:13, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know what your "some thoughts" were. The fact that this music is not for heckelphone alone, but for an interesting group of chamber musicians, including double bass - these poor people otherwise have just the Trout Quintet - is key to the music, and being able to see one of the inspiring images has nothing to do with classical music, and looking at pictures is no "specialist knowledge in art", to my understanding, but something that children can do. Therefore I actually prefer ALT0. The 120 years seems rather of "specialist" interest, no? Who cares if 110 or 130? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:38, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Agreed. ALT0 is a good hook. I've asked for it to be restored below. Viriditas (talk) 09:09, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    @Narutolovehinata5: I think you may have been a little quick to dismiss ALT0, perhaps because of your previous experience with Gerda's hooks. I think ALT0 is far from obscure as you describe it; Escher has high name recognition in the US and Europe, and the fact that there's a classical composition based on five of his art works is about as interesting as it gets. I would therefore ask you to restore ALT0. Viriditas (talk) 09:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I propose a rebooted ALT0 as ALT0a below:
    ALT0a ... that Perplexities after Escher, a composition for heckelphone, string quartet and double bass, is based on five graphic artworks by M. C. Escher?
    Thank you. I add the link to the specific image especially for those general readers who (inspite of the bestseller Gödel, Escher, Bach) would not immediately recognize Escher. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    ps: I wonder about the copyright of that image. Could we perhaps even include it? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:50, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    We could leave the final choice to the reviewer, but for what it's worth, saying that ALT0/ALT0a works because Escher is well-known in those regions could come off as Western-centric or a case of systemic bias. Not all regions in the world are familiar with him, and I imagine that while he might be well known among art circles there, among the general public perhaps not as much. Just speaking from a non-American or non-European perspective here (or to be specific, an Asian perspective). I also suspect that, regardless, the Escher angle will be less likely to get readership interest as it's somewhat more specialist than the alternative (the main point of the hook requiring knowing who Escher is). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:05, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    See M.C. Escher's Legacy: A Centennial Celebration (2007)[2003] ISBN 978-3-540-28849-7: Exhibitions in 1998, the centennial year of his birth, "were held in Brazil, Mexico, The Czech Republic, Hong Kong, Great Britain, China, Greece, Italy, Argentina, Canada, Holland, and Peru." (83) "The Japanese artist Shigeo Fukuda built an accurate model of Escher's Belvedere". (229) However, at the same time, the NYT tried to deny Escher any legitimacy in the artworld, claiming he was a "nonartist" outside of niche circles of mathematicians, physicists, crystallographers, visual perception experts, and of course, psychedelic adventurers. (p. V, see "Smith, Roberta, "Just a Nonartist in the Art World, But Endlessly Seen and Cited," The New York Times, January 21, 1998, E1, E3.) Why the NYT has a habit of making such crazy, overtly false statements is anyone's guess (their downplaying of famous historical events like the Holocaust is well known, doubly ironic since Sulzberger, their publisher, was Jewish). Viriditas (talk) 21:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    There is a link to Escher, and one to heckelphone. People able to click on a link will then know who Escher and when the heckelphone was introduced. To tell people when the heckelphone was introduced as practically the only information of a hook seems pretty senseless to me, the longer I think about it. It's about music, no? - Kindly unstrike ALT0 and leave it to a reviewer. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:14, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    For what it's worth, I just did an informal survey over at Discord and most of the responses did say they're familiar with him, so there's that and appears that I'm mistaken. We can probably leave ALT0a as an option for the reviewer, but ALT0 still has extra details and we'd rather avoid those whenever possible. Regardless of Escher, WP:DYKTRIM remains relevant. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Eurovision Song Contest 1975

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    Improved to Good Article status by Sims2aholic8 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 22 past nominations.

    Sims2aholic8 (talk) 18:36, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    René Vallon

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    René Vallon
    René Vallon
    • ... that René Vallon (pictured) achieved both the first flight and first flight-related death in China?
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 703 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 19:47, 6 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Dostrotime

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    • Source: On 23 January 2024, the music video for the lead single "Wendorlan" was released on YouTube. The visuals for the music video were made by Jenkinson himself, using an oscilloscope. It was filmed in one take and, according to Jenkinson, he used "custom processing to generate the XY signal from components of track audio and control data". https://thequietus.com/news/squarepusher-wendorlan/
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    Created by Beachweak (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Beachweak (talk) 12:55, 6 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on November 7

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    Pablo Busch

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    Pablo Busch, c. 1930
    Pablo Busch, c. 1930
    • Source: Hollweg 1995, p. 330.
    Created by Krisgabwoosh (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 47 past nominations.

    Krisgabwoosh (talk) 06:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Kingdom of Characters

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    Created by Kimikel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

    Kimikel (talk) 05:53, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Kwan Man-ching

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    Kwan Man-ching
    Kwan Man-ching
    • Source: Chung, Stephanie (2022). "From Silent Films to Talkies: Rediscovering Moon Kwan Man-ching". Exploring Hong Kong Films of the 1930s and 1940s: Part 1: Era and Film History (PDF). Translated by Chin, Roberta. Hong Kong: Hong Kong Film Archive. pp. 32–49. ISBN 978-962-8050-77-2. Archived from the original (PDF) on 15 March 2023. Retrieved 7 November 2024. "Later, Kwan would reminisce that his choice to commit to the film industry in his youth was not only a way of survival, but also because of his wish to revitalise China’s industry. He also chose film because of its ability to subtly influence, making it a good tool to educate the people. Another reason was because he was very attracted to actress Mary Pickford, and had hoped for an opportunity to get close to her in the film studio." Number of films is listed at "關文清 Moon Kwan / Kwan Man Ching (1896-1995)". 香港電影導演大全, 1914-1978 [The Ultimate Guide to Hong Kong Film Directors, 1914-1978] (in Chinese). Hong Kong: Hong Kong Film Directors Guild. 2018. ISBN 978-988-12666-0-6. (I count more than sixty).
    • ALT1: ... that Kwan Man-ching (pictured) advised D. W. Griffith to forego queues with Broken Blossoms? Source: Lester, Jason (2023). Experiments with China in American Modernity (Thesis). University of Oregon – via ProQuest. "Whereas Kwan positioned himself in relation to signifiers of classical Chinese tradition in his endeavors within poetry and fine art, he went to great lengths in Griffith’s production to advocate for the modernity of the Chinese people. He persuaded Griffith against the Chinese protagonist of the film wearing a queue, arguing it would be woefully anachronistic for a narrative taking place in the current day."
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Rei Nakashima
    Created by Crisco 1492 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 704 past nominations.

     — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:14, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Organization of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention

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    Moved to mainspace by John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 43 past nominations.

    John P. Sadowski (NIOSH) (talk) 00:07, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Petergofsky District

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    • Source: M. Mitelʹman. Борьба партии большевиков за упрочение советской власти (1917- 1918 гг.). Политиздат при ЦК ВКП(б), 1940. p. 20
    Moved to mainspace by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 410 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 23:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Death of Milton King

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    • Source: Source 1: Cobley, Alan Gregor (June 1992). "'Far from home': the origins and significance of the Afro‐Caribbean community in South Africa to 1930". Journal of Southern African Studies. 18 (2): 349–370. doi:10.1080/03057079208708318. Source 2: "West Indies Boycott South African Goods". Rand Daily Mail. Johannesburg, South Africa. October 10, 1951. p. 4.
    Improved to Good Article status by SunTunnels (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    SunTunnels (talk) 01:49, 15 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Artur Bubnevych

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    Created by Maximilian775 (talk) and Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

    Maximilian775 (talk) 20:58, 14 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Canaanite ivory comb

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    • ... that the Canaanite ivory comb that contains the earliest sentence in a phonetic alphabet was categorized as a miscellaneous artifact for five years before gaining significance as an important discovery?
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    • Comment: An image would be excellent for this entry. The images are there in the internet but I have been unable to find a suitable one that can be uploaded to commons with proper licensing. Please help me find/upload a picture for this artifact.
    Created by Raydann (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    ❯❯❯ Raydann(Talk) 20:21, 9 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Comment: So, between 2004 and 2010 or so, I did a lot of reading about artifacts like this. It turns out that it is extremely common for items like this to be set aside for years, decades, perhaps even a century or more, before someone comes along and decides to give them a second look. I only bring this up because while I like your hook, I could see others objecting to it as mundane. Viriditas (talk) 23:35, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Jim Rivaldo

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    • Source: [44] Politics was as much a passion as a job for Jim Rivaldo, a veteran San Francisco political consultant who worked campaigns for candidates ranging from Harvey Milk and Ella Hill Hutch to Supervisor Bevin Dufty and District Attorney Kamala Harris.
    Moved to mainspace by Vigilantcosmicpenguin (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 20 past nominations.

    — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 00:48, 9 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    2014 NFC Championship Game

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    « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:33, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Snooze (song)

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    Improved to Good Article status by PSA (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 23 past nominations.

    Elias / PSA 🏕️🪐 [please make some noise] 10:22, 8 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    DYK Dynamicland

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    • ... that Dynamicland in Oakland replaces traditional screens with room-sized, interactive physical spaces where users engage with digital information through tangible objects?
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    • Comment: training request
    Created by Francescoboniotti (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Francescoboniotti (talk) 16:38, 16 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Dickinson pumpkin

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    Pumpkin pie
    Pumpkin pie
    • ... that the majority of pumpkin pies (pictured) in the United States are made with the Dickinson pumpkin?
    • Source: "Dickinson pumpkins are a variety of pumpkin that is mostly grown for making canned pumpkin to use in pumpkin pie and in other baked goods. They have mildly sweet, orange flesh with a dry, dense texture. Dickinson pumpkins are members of the squash family (Cucurbitaceae), with the botanical name of Cucurbita moschata. They're a subspecies of the same squash species that includes the crookneck, butternut, and calabaza varietals, among others. It was first cultivated in Kentucky in the early 1800s by a farmer named Elijah Dickinson. Dickinson later brought the seeds to central Illinois, where they grew so prolifically that they helped launch a vegetable processing plant that was later acquired by a Chicago-based canned food company called Libby's. Libby's still grows Dickinson pumpkins in central Illinois, although they've tweaked the cultivar a bit over the years to produce a varietal that features extra dense, sweet flesh. Today, Libby's accounts for 85 percent of the canned pumpkin market, and 100 percent of what goes in those cans is their proprietary cultivar of Dickinson pumpkin." The Spruce Eats
    Created by Thriley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 152 past nominations.

    Thriley (talk) 21:07, 13 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Prank of Bardakçı Baba

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    • Source: E. Öktem, Istanbul insolita e segreta (2016), p. 137.
    • Reviewed: I will do ASAP
    Created by Alessandro57 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 84 past nominations.

    Alex2006 (talk) 20:16, 13 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Kammerkonzert (Hartmann)

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    Created by Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2126 past nominations.

    Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:25, 12 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: No - n
    • Interesting: No - n
    • Other problems: No - Length.

    QPQ: No - Not done
    Overall: Article is quite fine; it is long enough and new enough. No copyright violations detected. There is half a good hook in the proposed ALT0. The reference to Kodály should be dropped as it won't mean anything to the average person reading this hook. The implication of a causal relationship between Hartmann's inner emigration and the eventual date of this work's completion isn't quite confirmed in the article. According to this study by Andrew McCredie, the work's composition dates "suggest a long and possibly traumatic Entstehungsgeschich [creation history]", but that this observation cannot be confirmed because there apparently is no surviving documentation in the composer's papers. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 22:06, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Oh My Mother!

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    • Source: Connie Chung was trusted and respected — qualities that my mother herself had enjoyed in China. So when I picked my name, my mom readily acceded. What more could she hope for from her own Connie?

    What my family didn’t know was that a version of the same scenario was playing out in living rooms and hospitals across the country. Asian American families from the late 1970s through the mid-’90s — mostly Chinese, all new immigrants — had considered the futures of their newborn daughters and, inspired by one of the few familiar faces on their TVs, signed their own wishes, hopes and ambitions onto countless birth certificates in the form of a single name: Connie.

    Today, it’s common to join an organization, take a new job or attend a conference and meet an Asian Connie; at every workplace I’ve been one of a few. And with each of them, I’ve found it’s always the same story: No, it’s not short for Constance. Yes, they grew up watching Connie Chung on TV. And, yeah — it is weird, isn’t it, that they’ve never met a non-Asian Connie their age either?

    Source: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/05/11/opinion/connie-chung-named-after.html
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    Created by Phibeatrice (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Phibeatrice (talk) 23:08, 9 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • The hook fact is interesting, but as currently written the hook is very complicated and hard to read. Maybe:
    ALT1 ... that in her memoir Oh My Mother!, journalist Connie Wang noted the popularity of the name Connie among Asian American women?
    ALT1a ... that in her memoir Oh My Mother!, journalist Connie Wang noted that many Asian American women were named Connie?
    It might be better to leave out Chung's name from the hook, since this new proposed wording might make it more likely for readers to read the article and find out more (i.e. hooking them in to find out, where then they would learn about Chung's influence). Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 15:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    While that might work, I'm not too much of a fan of that specific wording as the hook is supposed to be more about Oh My Mother! rather than Wang herself. It might work if the nominator can bring Wang's article to GA status and thus making this a double nomination. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 22:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Murakami T

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    • ... that Haruki Murakami once wrote an entire book of photos and essays about his T-shirt collection, titled Murakami T, when he wasn't "in the mood to write fiction"?
    • ALT1: ... that Haruki Murakami owns so many T-shirts that he collects them in "stacked-up cardboard boxes" and ended up publishing an entire book about them titled Murakami T? Source: T-shirts are one of those things which naturally pile up. They’re cheap, so whenever an interesting one catches my eye I buy it. People give me various novelty T-shirts from around the world, I get commemorative T-shirts whenever I run a marathon, and when I travel I often pick up a few, instead of bringing along extra clothes. Which is why the number of T-shirts in my life has skyrocketed, to the point where there’s no room in my drawers anymore and I have to store the overflow in stacked-up cardboard boxes.
      https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/09/27/an-accidental-collection
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    Created by Phibeatrice (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Phibeatrice (talk) 06:39, 9 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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    Jill, Duchess of Hamilton

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    Created by Surtsicna (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 186 past nominations.

    Surtsicna (talk) 21:12, 13 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Planting a Rainbow

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    Created by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 532 past nominations.

    Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 04:03, 13 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Nazareth Hall Preparatory Seminary

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    The relocated altar and baldachin of Nazareth Hall
    The relocated altar and baldachin of Nazareth Hall
    Improved to Good Article status by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

    ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 14:51, 11 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Sams Creek (New Zealand)

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    Sams Creek from the Cobb Road bridge
    Sams Creek from the Cobb Road bridge
    Moved to mainspace by Schwede66 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 165 past nominations.

    Schwede66 08:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Richard Du Cann

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    • Source: "His workload was prodigious and there were many causes celebres in which he was briefed, both as a junior and in Silk. The indictment of DH Lawrence's book Lady Chatterley's Lover, the Calvi Inquest and the Blue Arrow fraud case are indicative of the range of his practice and the reputation he possessed among his clients, lay and professional." from: Nutting, John (7 August 1994). "Obituary: Richard Du Cann". The Independent. Retrieved 10 November 2024. and "The arrest led to his eventual deportation to England and a 1976 Old Bailey trial for fraud, theft and deception after which he was convicted and jailed. Originally represented by barristers Richard du Cann and Geoffrey Robertson, he decided to defend himself." from: Campbell, Duncan (16 December 2022). "ITV dramatises life of John Stonehouse MP who faked his death in 1974". The Guardian. Retrieved 10 November 2024.
    Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 904 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 21:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Berta Persson

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    Berta Persson, aka "Buss-Berta" with her first bus, a Chevrolet for 14 passengers.
    Berta Persson, aka "Buss-Berta" with her first bus, a Chevrolet for 14 passengers.
    • ... that in 1927 Berta Persson became the first woman bus driver in Sweden and was nicknamed "Buss-Berta"?
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    Created by MumphingSquirrel (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    MumphingSquirrel (talk) 19:31, 10 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Qizil Tugh

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    • ... that the newspaper Qizil Tugh ('Red Banner') provided a publishing platform for young Uyghur language poets and writers in the Soviet Union?
    • Source: Мунир Ерзин. Становление и развитие уйгурской советской печати. Изд-во "Наука" Казахской ССР, 1988. pp. 119-121
    Created by Soman (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 412 past nominations.

    Soman (talk) 14:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Hold Your Hand (film)

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    • ... that the film Hold Your Hand was based on the author's experiences after getting arrested in 2013?
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    Created by Miminity (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 10:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Pizza in Croatia

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    A pizza served in Croatia
    A pizza served in Croatia
    Created by WhoWorldLive (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    WhoWorldLive (talk) 09:07, 10 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    • Date ok, but length insufficient to qualify for DYK. Hook needs to be reworked, the grammar is not clear. Some of the existing article prose now need improvement, sentence like "Pizza serving Croatia like largest cities and towns in Zagreb ..." is not clear. The comments about random youtubers seems disproportionate, and the article instead ought to focus on history of pizza in Croatia and what (if any) traits that separate Croatian pizzas from its Italian origins. No qpq needed. --Soman (talk) 14:01, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Article is currently at AfD and therefore this must go on hold.--Launchballer 16:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

    Bob Gandey

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    Gandey's circus
    Gandey's circus
    • ... that Bob Gandey was training performing ponies from the age of nine?
    • Source: "he started to train ponies with Lord George Sanger’s Circus aged nine." from: "Gandey's Circus (Established c1918)". University of Sheffield Archives. Retrieved 9 November 2024.
    • ALT1: ... that Bob Gandey founded a circus (big top pictured) that continues to be operated by his descendants more than 100 years later? Source: "Gandey's Circus (Established c1918) ... During the First World War the family continued to appear in variety shows around the country and by 1918 they were travelling their owned circus tent. ... Today the circus is run by Philip and Carol Gandey with their daughters Hayley and Mariska involved in various aspects of the business." from: "Gandey's Circus (Established c1918)". University of Sheffield Archives. Retrieved 9 November 2024.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Regulus (painting)
    Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 902 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 07:40, 10 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Louis Abramson

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    Daughters of Jacob Home
    Daughters of Jacob Home
    • ... that Louis Abramson worked on the renovation of a building (pictured) he had designed 57 years earlier?
    Moved to mainspace by RoySmith (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 43 past nominations.

    RoySmith (talk) 02:32, 12 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Stanley Washburn

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    • Source: "Stanley Washburn of Lakewood, New Jersey, a newspaperman, a soldier, a propagandist, and a former Republican candidate for Congress, had just written to fellow Republican Frank Knox to offer a voice of Far East experience. Apparently during his newspapering days, Washburn had covered the Russo-Japanese War, and he told Knox in a letter on November 29 not to underestimate the Japanese. He had seen them in action, and they were smart, committed, cre- ative, and willing to die. "In my experience, the Japanese never do what they're expected to do," Washburn warned. Knox thought enough of Washburn's wisdom and credentials to pass the letter to Harold Stark. On Tuesday, December 2, Stark put a copy in the mail for Kimmel. By the time it arrived, its prediction was reality." from Twomey, Steve (21 November 2017). Countdown to Pearl Harbor: The Twelve Days to the Attack. Simon and Schuster. p. 190. ISBN 978-1-4767-7648-4. (Note that Knox was the US secretary of the Navy at the time)
    Moved to mainspace by Dumelow (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 905 past nominations.

    Dumelow (talk) 19:17, 11 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    2011 Central Alabama tornado

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    EF5 18:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]


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    Gigarta

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    • Source: Aliquot 2009, pp. 77–78.
    • Strabo 2019, 16.2.18.
    • Pliny the Elder 2019, 5.17.12.
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    Created by Elias Ziade (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 39 past nominations.

    el.ziade (talkallam) 12:04, 14 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    Alien: Romulus

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    Sir Ian Holm in Edinburgh August 2004
    Sir Ian Holm in Edinburgh August 2004
    Improved to Good Article status by Lankyant (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    Lankyant (talk) 03:19, 14 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

    2007 Greensburg tornado

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    Created by EF5 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

    EF5 13:41, 13 November 2024 (UTC).[reply]

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